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The next two weeks, to a month... is going to be a VERY INTERESTING time for reddit.
Knock on wood, lemmy is going strong, and I have been enjoying the content, and conversations here much better than I have been on reddit.
Reddit lost some of it's most committed users, though. It's also solidly not 'cool', not that it was ever cool-cool, I mean that it's reputation has been harmed among their target market.
I wonder if Reddit will ever launch/acquire-and-rebrand a spin-off, like how Instagram is where younger people went to get away from Facebook.
Personally I think things have changed for the better, I’ve been waiting for a Reddit alternative for years and only found kbin through the blackout. Seems we’ve got sustainable numbers and a decent community.
A small win but still a win.
I'm curious about the normal numbers thing. I left the website (I needed to anyway, was obsessively checking it in my free time) and I figure there must be at least a few like me. So if that's true, how could it be back to original numbers after such a fiasco?
Most users don't know a fiasco happened, or care, really. You gotta remember your average user doesn't comment at all and really just scrolls while upvoting posts every once in a while. Their engagement is far more casual.
It might be back to normal numbers, but that's until the API charges kick in and apps like Infinity stop working or start not to be fre?
It’s not even normal numbers, if you look at ads traffic (the real money maker) that one remains down from before the protest.
Where did you find info on that? I didn't know it was public.
I just wish everyone would quit trying to turn this into Reddit. We left Reddit because we don't like what it is/is becoming. Let's not rush to make this an identical copy, ya know?
I would rather have less content and a better user base, personally. As long as there is continual modest growth and sustainability.
What they do there can stay there, imo.
Wait and see what happens when the third party apps don't work. Sure some will install the crappy official app being forced upon them but the cool kids will be looking for the next big thing.
Here's to hoping all the narcissistic types who lash out at anything that even slightly inconveniences them (cough Reddit protests cough) stay there.
I'm enjoying Lemmy, but I think perhaps it needs to do more to differentiate itself from Reddit by being better in some major way if users are going to move to it. Right now it's essentially just decentralised Reddit, but if it develops in the right way, that could be enough. I think it depends on how easy it is to find and filter content, contribute and avoid seeing the things or people you don't want to, as well as what kind of communities grow around major instances.
I think it is very plausible that the numbers only appear to be back to normal. I agree probably nothing will change but at the very least I am not using reddit any more - and I feel like I have seen a similar sentiment from other users of Lemmy/kbin.
Yeah, I think at this point, regardless of what happens on Reddit, Lemmy/KBin seem to have a decently active base and speaking only for myself, I'm not planning on even lurking on Reddit ... the most I'll do is hit a link that I find on Google or that gets linked elsewhere.
For me, there is plenty of new content popping up in the Fediverse to keep me interested, I'd just like too see more people commenting. Then, I realize I need to be the change I want to see, so am attempting to become more active than I was on Reddit and actively engage in more conversations (ex: this post :-D ).
Lemmy/kbin has what 220k to reddits 800m
In all fairness- I kind of want a bunch of the reddit users... to STAY on reddit, away from lemmy.
The conversation quality recently on reddit has went WAAAY down.
And the conversation quality in the fediverse is fantastic!
That isn't the way the Internet works. If the 220k lemmy users were the most active out of the 800m, then reddit is basically dead.
Lemmy/kbin is over 1m now. Growing at about 200-300k per day over the last week or so.
The 1m+ figure is mostly bots flooding open instances though, real figures are probably closer to 200-300k
True, but reddit's portion of bots is also massive. Anecdotally I saw bots constantly in reddit's comments. I have yet to see one in the fediverse so far.
How much of that growth happened over the last few weeks vs it’s lifetime though compared to Reddit?
Is it really that high? That's pretty impressive for what has it been, 2 weeks?
I know a lot of people have said this, but I'm thinking once the 3rd party apps go dark we might get another spike here
We’ve got a populated Lemmy now.
Here’s a question. Who’s monitoring Reddit’s traffic and activity other than Reddit? What incentive do they have to be honest about those numbers?
I had heard of lemmy but not checked it out until this debacle made it clear that jettisoning reddit was the right move. It's been a lot of fun so far. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet, which is a breath of fresh air.
The culture on reddit has been clicheed for a long time now. At least people stopped saying 'the narwhal bacons at midnight', and 'and my axe' is only ironic now, but the pun threads, the Ouija chains, the silly automods and bots - I had enough of that. Also it's absurd to try to comment on a post that has 6,500 or whatever replies already.
What would make me hard quit a thread was when somebody would comment a quote from a show that was actually relevant & funny to the topic at hand, but then it would create an endless chain of reply comments of completely irrelevant quotes from the same show. Like, ok we get it, you got the joke, please stop.
Could they BE any more annoying!
Lemmy is capturing some of the early energy that Reddit once had. It’s cool.
True and im gonna be happily settling in on here watching the drama.