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Bandcamp... What now?
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this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2023
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Indeed, discoverability is the largest problem for people in the Fediverse and there doesn't seem to be a simple solution for it.
Perhaps what's needed is a charitable, non-profit foundation (properly registered) whose sole purpose is to give artists an opt-in place to register their social links, samples, etc. Then the content can be on the Fediverse in various forms (depending on medium and artist desires) but where catalogues can be easily scanned and followed.
Or it could simply be decentralized in the sense thatb producers could take care of online distribution themselves instead of relying on third party services, or it's perfectly fine to have centralized services for some things and it's normal to see some of those services come and go.
The issue is "discoverability". Producers "taking care of online distribution themselves" are dealing with, you know, the very problem that they are not discoverable. Unless they're on a third-party service, of course.
A commercial centralized discoverability service would enshittify REALLY quickly because of the profit motive. First they'd make everything nice for both listers and consumers. Make themselves indispensable to listers. Then lock the listers into an abusive relationship with no viable means out. (Kind of like bandcamp, come to think of it!) And once they've squeezed every last ounce out of the listers, the consumers get the screws next since there's no viable option for them to escape to.
A non-profit foundation has no profit motive (by definition) so has no incentive whatsoever to enshittify.
Or, you know, the music creators could seize the means of distribution and take care of it themselves... Again, discoverability for anything that's decentralized has yet to be proven better than a centralized solution. I never search answers to issues on Lemmy, I search on Reddit or Steam forums (for game issues). I don't go on Google to look for new music, I go on Spotify.
Anyway, what's the advantage for the artists exactly? They need to trust Sir_poop_up_my_butt with their music on their server and hope that they don't just go offline at some point rendering their music inaccessible just like the content of some instances just disappeared because people got bored with Lemmy and hosting their instance?
The. Advantage. Is. Discoverability.
If you can't figure out from there what the issue is, you're on your own Sparky. Maybe talk to an artist struggling with the current system and tell them they just have to "take care of it themselves". I'd advise not saying it in person, though, or you'll wind up getting ... ah ... bruised. Slightly. Ever so slightly.
And as I said multiple times, discoverability sucks in a decentralized service because searching for things is nigh impossible.
You asserted it multiple times, yes, but substantiated nothing.
Go off and waste someone else's feed, Sparky. I've got better things to bang my head against than brick walls.
You haven't shown how a decentralized system is better for discoverability and the original claim was that it is, without anything to substantiate the claim. So far decentralization experiences show that it's pretty much impossible to find content on there, heck, even Reddit is bad to share and accumulate content/knowledge compared to traditional forums and websites!