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Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 years ago

It's shameful that Hamas terrorists intentionally use children as shields.

[-] dlatch@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

Let me ask you two questions.

If Hamas is using the Palestinian people as shields and is forcefully preventing civilians from moving away from them, that makes the Palestinian people effectively hostages of Hamas. So if the Palestinian hostages happen to be near Hamas terrorists, are they acceptable collateral damage if Israel bombs them?

Eventually, Israel will find out where the Israeli hostages are being kept. Obviously, there will be Hamas terrorists near them. Are the Israeli hostages acceptable collateral damage if Israel bombs them?

If you answered yes to one question, and no to the other, you should ask yourself why you put different value on the lives of innocent human beings. Is it what side of a fence they are born on? What nationality they happen to have? What religion they believe in? The color of their skin?

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

rationally, no collateral damage is acceptable. realistically, you just need saturation bombing to answer the question.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

You say "answer the question", as in the 'Palestinian Question'? Just admit you are advocating for a genocide, a wholesale slaughter of a people based on their nation.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

if that's where your mind goes, that's on you.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

I mean support for Israel sounds like genocide apologia, and the 'jewish question' was a term used during the holocaust, so it wasn't much of a stretch.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

support for terrorists like hamas is exactly what it sounds like though.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

If a group used terrorism in their fight against the Nazis during WW2, I would shun terrorism but I would be a supporter of that group.

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

ah, equating the Israelis to National Socialism? how trite

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Can you think of a more obvious evil group than Nazis? I wasn't trying to say Israelis were like Nazis or anything, just that it was an obvious moral position. The position being, where there is something so abhorrent, violent and calculated for years causing untold horror, a group that is justified in their struggle may use methods you don't agree with in the desperate fight against that horror.

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