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The IDF revealed on Friday, what it described as intelligence showing a Hamas command center located under a the Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. In a briefing, Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari told members of the foreign press corps that there are areas in the hospitals that are used by Hamas to direct its military operations.

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[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"This is an illustration of Shifa hospital and the underground facilities. I want to repeat, this is only an illustration. We will not share here the true material that we have in our hands. This is only an illustration." - The dude doing the press conference.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Yea, it's an illustration of nothing real. Like Hamas doesn't even have cement, what's depicted in the video is as close to real life as if they had just shown a Doom level. What is the point of illustrating your imagination of what's there?

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

...you think Gaza doesn't have cement?

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

The import of cement is heavily restricted by Israel since like 20 years ago, yea.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Um Randy

https://handymantips.org/make-homemade-concrete/

Making cement is not hard. Find some sea shells or limestone and crush them up, add heat.

Do you need me to come fix your stove hinge ?

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

You think Hamas has enough limestone mines and kilns to make a punker fully out of concrete under like every hospital and no one has found those facilities while they have found concrete bunkers all over Gaza without even going there?

Also good luck making cement in an oven, cooking ovens don't even have the fraction of required heat.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If only they bordered a large body of water that might have shells

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

There aren't enough shells in the whole middle east, let alone Gaza to make the required amount of cement.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It depends on what they are actually doing with the cement.

Most of the tunnels in the news seem to be using regular building materials which is likely stripped from older homes or never makes it to new homes

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You just reduced the required amount of shells to maybe just the whole of the middle east and even that is questionable. Hamas has access to enough beach to fix some cracks and maybe even piece together one wall out of very large pieces of a building that fit together very well over 20 years but not much else. The amount of seashells you need for a decent amount of cement is colossal, for anything serious you need a limestone mine.

Not to mention the facilities to produce the cement that would give off massive amounts of heat and smoke.

[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And yet we have images and video of the actual tunnels. So perhaps they found a genie and that made them cement. Or the more likely way is that its smuggled in

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I have seen videos and images of those tunnels as well. One tunnel, that has images of it seems to have broken building pieces as reinforcement and every other I have seen is just been dirt and stone. Nothing like the illustration Israel published, definitely no red barrel room, or even any room, just tunnels.

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