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(does not reflect my opinion, just thought it looked funny)

Less hostile when in context.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Or just because it's annoying as hell and we have the technology to make silent cars, so there is no valid reason to have noisy cars on public roads.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The reason why someone wants loudness is for their own safety factor such as motorbikes. If cars can’t see them or hear them it is very dangerous. And it helps even less that someone with a car also wants to be loud so they can’t be aware of others on the road.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 years ago

Loud pipes do not actually save lives. It's been studied. And they absolutely would not have prevented or mitigated my own wreck (sideswiped in traffic), which has led me to an extended hiatus from riding.What did save my life and minimize my injury? Proper safety equipment.

A full-face helmet that was properly tested for regulatory approval is why I didn't receive a TBI or need reconstructive surgery, as I high-sided and slid for a ways on my face, and got hit by my bike as it has more inertia.

An armored jacket with CE level 2 armor is why I suffered a nickel-sized abrasion as my only visible external injury (if it had impact armor covering my abdomen, my internal injuries may have been prevented).

A pair of armored, kevlar-mesh overalls are why I did not have a broken hip or need extra hardware (my hip does inform me when it's cold, however).

A pair of tall, CE certified boots, that were close to needing replacement, are why I sprained, rather than fractured my ankle and why my shin was not fractured. My ankle appears to inform me when precipitation is likely though, so between in and hip, I'm almost a human weather station now :P

And finally, the piece of equipment that I think did the most to save my life are the CE-Cat 2 EN13594/2015 certified gloves, with hard sliders (steel and composite) that I was wearing. Not only did they prevent significant injury that my hands would have suffered, but they allowed me to gain control of my motion, turning my tumble into a slide and steer myself away from traffic that I would have otherwise collided with, very likely causing fatality.

Loud pipes really just annoy the piss out of people around the bike and force pedestrians and those in their homes and businesses to pay attention to said biker. There's better ways to get attention in the community, like volunteer work or developing an impressive skill. Then, take the money that would be going towards loud pipes and spend it on actual, effective safety gear, not that leather vest nonsense.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Fellow Moto guy, I agree with all this and am glad you made it ok.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago

This is such a lame argument.

You could just beep your horn every time you see another car.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Which then offers a way to cause accidents in another new awful way.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

How about how some luxury cars are so silent, that speakers or exhaust diaphragms are added to make noise.

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Silent cars are dangerous too, I had an electric bus zoom past me and i didn't hear shit because of the busy road. I thought I was dead. They should have some kind of sound at least.

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's the silence that makes car and other vehicle dangerous... It's the fact that the road is there turf and you as a pedestrian or a cyclist have to be extra vigilant to cross. It's regrettable most cities are designed that way. Plus, I am almost certain electric buses, just like trams, have a ring bell to make extra noise warning distracted pedestrians. Finally, it's always the responsibility of the driver (even you as a car driver) to be vigilant of his surrounding, the driver is in charge of the safety of people all around him as he his in control of a massive, deadly machine.

[-] spacesatan@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you didnt hear it because other cars are louder. Tire noise already accounts for a substantial amount of the noise that cars make when the exhaust hasnt been modded to be louder.

[-] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Can't really expect everyone to go full environment friendly mode. And adding silent hunk of fast going metals is just dangerous. Besides living in India you get so used to all the traffic noises, you can't keep track of tire sounds cuz they're everywhere.

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