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Seeing mixed reports about the head of wagner rolling into Rostov, Russia. All kinds of other rumors swirling around. Anyone have any good info, or good sources to follow?

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[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

He’s worried that he’s going to get couped in a similar style to the Tsar, because all things considered, the Bolsheviks were an extremely weak fighting force compared to the Imperial army, but after their ranks were bolstered by defectors from WW1, and with the popular will of the people, they were able to sweep the Whites aside with relative ease.

[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I don't think there's such a strong support of Wagner in this case for that to happen, though, from what I'm seeing in TG channels everyone are treating them as traitors and I doubt the feeling in the ranks is much different, maybe there are some loose ends where money is involved but otherwise it would be very unpatriotic to support Wagner.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Definitely, I’m just giving Putin’s probable rationale. He’s probably had this in his mind for a long time, and not just about Wagner.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

they were able to sweep the Whites aside with relative ease.

In Petersburg at first yeah. But the civil war was incredibly hard. If whites actually managed to coordinate even with themselves, not to mention with intervents, they would probably won. Hell, the worst moment in war was when Yudenich managed to somewhat coordinate with Kolchak, and even then Kolchak fucked it up by being stuck up imperialist pig.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I agree, I was referring to the “first blitz” in major cities, and then the original offensives in 17-19. The rest of the civil war wad a bloody terrible affair.

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