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A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

...but if you're an outright Nazi, German intelligence might have a job for you.

[-] sic_1@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Is there maybe a way to use this to revoke citizenship of all these CXU/AfD Fascists?

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Nope. These types of laws are never aimed at blonde and blue-eyed people... not in the west, anyway.

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

If you're not white but you want the best for your country and love your job, you're fired and accused of being a communist lol. Literally idiocracy.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

There is not (Art. 16 GG). IIRC the only exception is the fringe case of someone having dual citizenship and enlisting to fight in a conflict involving the other country or some shit.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You can lose citizenship by taking up another (non-EU) one without having jumped through quite some hoops before, have another citizenship and fight in their army without previously asking for permission (there's a blanket exceptions for EU, NATO, EFTA and a couple of others), by giving it up, or being adopted by foreign parents. In all cases you won't lose it if it'd make you stateless.

On the flip side if you lost your German citizenship previously due to the Nazis you can get it back no questions asked, some but quite low bars exist for cases like a woman marrying a foreigner (until 1953 that meant she lost citizenship). You can also get citizenship pretty much instantly if you live in a territory that once was Germany, or in the ex soviet block, and still are considered to be ethnically German.

For the rest it's generally get a work permit, get permanent residence, stay here for eight years, that can be reduced to seven by completing an integration course, six if you're aceing integration, pass a written test, got sentenced to more than a misdemeanour, know enough German, swear allegience to the free and democratic basic order, and are willing to lose your old citizenship (exception: EU or Swiss citizens, also, hardship. E.g. Iran simply doesn't release people from their citizenship, the US demands exorbitant sums -- but Americans still might want to get rid of theirs to get rid of the IRS).

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Iran has this clause that they can technically allow someone to renounce their citizenship: the Council of Ministers has to accept your request and they simply never will, so you have to stay.

I have a friend in Iran that is a born Iranian who wanted to renounce his citizenship for years. First he was told it's impossible before having completed the mandatory military service (a lie, it is not a requirement by their own laws). He finally caved in and did the 2 years bullshit service. Then, they told him he needed to be 26. Ok, fine, he waited until then. Then they told him his questionnaire form was outdated and he needs to apply again with the new one. How to get the new one? Only way seems to be over the official page that links to a dead link, literally 404.

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