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A law under consideration by the German parliament would mean that people who have committed anti-Semitic acts can never be granted citizenship, German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday.

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I wondet if there will be a point when German people will decide to take bavk their auto-determination from the hands of Israel. They're acting like a colony, pretty pathetic for an european country if you ask me.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

Hamas is all about blood and soil and killing Jews. You may want to continue pretending they're a scrappy band of freedom fighters but that's only because you're stuck in an information silo. At this point people that support Hamas are anti-semitic, there's no way to rationalize out support for an organization that purposefully murders Jewish children. It's just pure anti-semitism, the mask is gone now.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] filister@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I don't think people here are supporting Hamas, but guess what, most probably Israel has killed way more children and babies than Hamas.

But we cannot call people who support the current government of Israel as anti-humanists, as we will automatically be called anti-Semites.

Do you see now where the problem stands, it boils down to your double standards, where you say civilian lives matter only on one side of the conflict and your refusal to admit that the other side is even more complicit.

And as Antonio Gutierrez said those killings are not happening in a vacuum. Palestinians are subject to years of repression by various Israelian governments.

And I don't hate Jews, I know some and most of them are great human beings. But I also happen to know some Arabs and even Palestinians who are also great people. I don't condemn or generalise people based on their religion or ethnicity. I condemn people based on their actions and reactions.

most probably Israel has killed way more children and babies than Hamas.

I mean sure, if you believe the UN /s

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

but guess what, most probably Israel has killed way more children and babies than Hamas.

I'll just be leaving this here, then.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Both things can be true at the same time. They're freedom fighters and terrorists.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Hamas very explicitly is fighting for an extremist Muslim caliphate, which is essentially the opposite of freedom. They also literally banned elections, which is pretty telling

The PLO is significantly more on the "freedom fighters" side of the spectrum.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They're fighting against Israeli occupation, which makes them freedom fighters; they're also a dictatorship and terrorists. The PLO is more on the freedom side, but they're not fighting in any sense of the word (they're basically running a Bantustan these days).

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Thanks. Bantustan is a fascinating subject.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

That's never going to happen. Because of Holocaust guilt Germany has to cuck itself for Israel indefinitely.

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