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[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You might treat them equally. That doesn't mean that the rest of the nation does. We now know 60% of the nation is racist. Which is an improvement on the 77% we had back during the Tampa crisis, I guess. But yeah, we need the voice to give them a fair go, like the rest of us got. You're an immigrant, and unless you're white, I guarantee you've copped some shit. Stop being so defensive and trying to put down our indigenous population, and instead reach down and help them up to our level. They just want a level playing field, they're not asking for the world.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It is something twisted logic. "Yes" vote would not help first nation, it will hurt them as now everyone who hate them would have a real reason to do so. And government probably will not miss opportunity to to make them scapegoats.
We do not know percentage. 40% of yes voters are racist by their vote, 60% of NO voters are split between one who do not accept racism and one who do not accept racism which do not benefit them. We do not know how they split.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why couldn't you have said this earlier? Then I could have easily judged you as the narrow minded racist that you are. The "yes" vote would most definitely help our first nations people's, or can you provide a different reason as to why the overwhelming majority of them voted "yes"? Go on, I love seeing idiots struggle... And that brings up another point related to your mindless drivel, are you saying that first nations people are racist towards themselves when they voted "yes"? They are hated because they are different, not because of a potential panel of people that helps the govt make fair and balanced decisions that affect them.

I genuinely despise you right now. You started off being a bit confused, now you are just spewing right wing non truths that are somehow worse than what was printed leading up to the vote. I wish you were never made a citizen here, we have enough prejudiced, close minded people here, we don't need more... And if you don't like this being directed at you, think of the first nations people in our country who have had to experience this for centuries. Maybe this will shake your core and give you some compassion. I'm doubtful it will due to your military grade stupidity, but I can still hope.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, you do not listen to my arguments. And I fail to see what of what I say make me a racist. I always argued for quality of all Australian.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've countered all your arguments. Your main one seems to be that this was somehow racist when the whole point of it was to counter centuries old, ingrained racism. You are so fundamentally wrong you should be committed. You're either a die hard racist or dumb as fuck, I honestly can't tell to the point that I want to study you. Either way, you don't represent what Australia is supposed to stand for and I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself if you want to integrate here. Cos if I hear you say this shit in public, I'm gonna call you on it. Not physically, but I will rage and make sure you know exactly how badly the words you say affect people.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Your main one seems to be that this was somehow racist when the whole point of it was to counter centuries old, ingrained racism. My point that you can't counter racism with racism.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not racist to help a race that has historically been done wrong by. The whole point was to lift them up to the same level as everyone else, not elevate them to some privileged position. I'm sick of repeating this, stop repeating right wing propoganda that has no basis in reality you racist fuck.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I guess we reach to root of our disparagement. I do not accept racism in any form. You seem accept it as method of fixing old wrong doing. Dixi.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The dictionary disagrees:

racism [ rey-siz-uhm ] noun a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

Also called in·sti·tu·tion·al rac·ism [in-sti-too-shuh-nl rey-siz-uhm, -tyoo-], struc·tur·al rac·ism [struhk-cher-uhl rey-siz-uhm], sys·tem·ic rac·ism [si-stem-ik rey-siz-uhm] . a policy, system of government, etc., that is associated with or originated in such a doctrine, and that favors members of the dominant racial or ethnic group, or has a neutral effect on their life experiences, while discriminating against or harming members of other groups, ultimately serving to preserve the social status, economic advantage, or political power of the dominant group.

There is nothing racist about making the playing field level. It is racist to want to keep a race below another, which is what you're advocating. So, I say again, you're the only racist one here.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

We have different dictionaries. From Webster:

2 Prejudice or discrimination based upon race.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's neither prejudice or discrimination though, so you've fucked that up too.

Edit: hang the fuck on. This is a link to the Webster definition and it doesn't say that. Stop making shit up.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

How it is not discrimination if treatment is different based on race?

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since you love Webster so much (see my edit above): discrimination noun dis·​crim·​i·​na·​tion di-ˌskri-mə-ˈnā-shən Synonyms of discrimination 1 a : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment racial discrimination

Because it's not prejudicial, that's why.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry. if it not prejudicial than it justified. How you justify one race over other?

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh ffs. How are you not getting that it was to make the races equal because first nations people are well below the rest of us? I've met rocks smarter than you.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

So you now claiming that they are inferior than other humans. 😱 So they need help to get to same level? Man, this it pure racism.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, your English comprehension just sucks. Right now, the playing field isn't level. First nations people are below everyone else in that regard. Do you understand now?

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Quoting you.

because first nations people are well below the rest of us? How you can interpreted this in any other way ? Why first nation need different treatment form any other disadvantaged group? ( This is exactly what was missing in SBS article you linked in other branch)

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, and? Your English sucks. In context, most english speakers could infer what's implied. You can't. That's on you, not me, mate.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I tend to disagree, you are not communicating clearly. As you can't provide anything meaningful and been so useless. I'm done here. And just one last advice. Learn how to communicate, yelling, repeating same shit over and over again and insults does not help you or you cause. Good thing that some other guys step up and provide some useful comments, so I can't just dismiss all "yes" voters as been same as you.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So, I don't speak at a grade 5 level. Again, that's on you, not me. Take some English classes or fuck off.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago
[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And yet, here you are, still interacting, you racist.

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