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What's your Sci-Fi unpopular opinion? (kbin.social)
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It's a slightly click-baity title, but as we're still generating more content for our magazines, this one included, why not?

My Sci-fi unpopular opinion is that 2001: A Space Odyssey is nothing but pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. I've tried watching it multiple times and each time I have absolutely no patience for the pointless little scenes which contain little to no depth or meaningful plot, all coalescing towards that 15 minute "journey" through space and series of hallucinations or whatever that are supposed to be deep, shake you to your foundations, and make you re-think the whole human condition.

But it doesn't. Because it's just pretentious, LSD fueled nonsense. Planet of the Apes was released in the same year and is, on every level, a better Sci-fi movie. It offers mystery, a consistent and engaging plot, relatable characters you actually care about, and asks a lot more questions about the world and our place in it.

It insists upon itself, Lois.

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[-] techno156@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It depends a lot on who you ask.

Although I'm rather of the opinion that the "magic" died sometime before Voyager. It was already on the way out when the network executives tried to recapture The Next Generation with it, and also launch a new television network with it at the same time.

It just ended up trying to be both its own show, and a copy of another, not succeeding particularly well at both.

[-] Haily@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Voyager is definitely hit and miss, although I do like a lot of the stuff they did with the Borg, with the exception of the incredibly weird Borg queen. Also, Q’s dynamic with the Voyager crew is something truly special.

I love TNG though. It took awhile to truly get off the ground, but my god it was great once Gene Roddenberry finally left.

[-] falsem@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I love TNG though. It took awhile to truly get off the ground, but my god it was great once Gene Roddenberry finally left.

That's a hot take.

[-] Haily@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Really? I thought that was basically the universally held opinion at this point. Gene Roddenberry had all sorts of sentimental ideas about what he wanted to do with the show, and it wasn’t until he left that the story really started to ramp up. I can think of so many episodes in season one and two that just shouldn’t have been there at all.

[-] falsem@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Well, new to me at least

[-] Haily@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Here’s a Quora thread I found which explains things quite nicely. Unfortunately I was unable to find a proper article.

https://www.quora.com/Beyond-writing-why-did-Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-improve-so-much-after-season-2-The-extras-acting-music-and-everything-about-The-Royale-is-just-so-ridiculous-but-then-things-improve-so-much-Why

Roddenberry was definitely a genius, but he made his fair share of stupid decisions, particularly towards the end of his life.

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