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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Several conspiracy lunatics got deplatformed. Trump literally got canceled off twitter, until his buddy Musk bought it back.
After #meToo and before his sentencing, I'm pretty sure Harvey Weinstein didn't do much movie producing either.

Influencers/personalities who don't get into illegal or seditious speech don't usually get deplatformed, so they have the option to stick around through heinous acts and subsequent harassment (e.g. the Paul brothers).

However canceling DOES work against people with, like, any semblance of humanity who can't wall off a continuous barrage of rape and death threats. Lindsay Ellis straight up closed up shop following a harassment campaign over some really stupid shit I can't even remember (she's back on Nebula now, but she's still off YouTube).

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

you can't say someone like trump got cancelled when he is like fighting for presidency of the largest military cult to ever exist or whatever he's up to these days.

If you want to establish cancel culture as a thing you have to

show that people can be barred from publicity and financial success

and

show that it is different from what happened in the past with reactions to scandals.

[-] soloner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No true Scotsman, eh?

Johny Depp? Dude lost work. It impacted him. He was cancelled.

Kevin spacey is another one. Louis CK. These are people who had work impacted because of alleged behaviors and actions they took.

Not gonna get more nuanced with you about it. It's a real thing. You've been given plenty of examples.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

They are all rich and famous, Louis ck is a self confessed sexual harasser.

All of them are still around, rich, and have a platform. Nothing that happened to them is different from past scandals.

Shit Jonny Dep is definitely a shitty abusive person and somehow everyone thinks he's a pure victim because his propaganda campaign was so effective.

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Weird, what you seem to call "cancel culture", I would call "consequences for actions"

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I just did. Lindsay Ellis got her carreer fucked by it.
Why? Just because the word changes doesn't mean the principle isn't still the same. And just because reactionaries like to call any mild backlash "cancelling" doesn't mean it isn't a thing.