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[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 57 points 11 months ago

Does she realize what a complete arsehole that makes her look? She'd rather go to jail than treat people like human beings?

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago
[-] vanquesse 13 points 11 months ago

assuming you didn't make a typo, this ain't cute. The signal you're sending is that respecting pronouns is a privilege you reserve for people you agree with.

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It's more that I'm giving her a taste of her own medicine. She doesn't extend this basic courtesy to people she disagrees with, so why should anyone give it to her?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago

Because it isn't just hurting she/her, it is also hurting the people who want to be called a different pronouns.

So better to keep referring to her cis pronouns every time she/her is mentioned.

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago
[-] vanquesse 2 points 11 months ago

Because the signal you're sending to trans people is that you don't think respecting our pronouns is a human right.

She is so vile and toxic in such obvious ways - why not attack her for her wrongs instead?

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Personally I think pronouns should be abolished altogether - think of the cumulative time you could save by trimming the language like that. Trim the fat. After all, why use many word when few word do trick?

[-] doleo@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Said same thing to friend, earlier. Said to was a stupid idea and need functional words to build meaningful sentences. Don't agree with.

[-] imatree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Yet here I am, reading your sentence twice to understand it.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Why read twice when once do trick?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Completely agreed.

Pronouns stem from a time when it mattered whether or not a sentence was about a man or a woman. Sentences about men were given a higher status.

Once we accepted women are equal to men, it really doesn't matter what the gender is of the person the sentence is about. They are human, that should be enough.

I've been replacing all pronouns with they/them for a while, even in my daily life.

[-] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

It's hyperbole and she is referring to being forced to think a particular thing. She's not wrong on the premise. But no one wants to analyze this because thinking and discord are hard.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago

She can still think whatever she wants, she just isn't allowed to call people names they don't want.

It is like me calling you "asshole" the whole time, and then proudly announcing that I would rather go to jail than stop calling you asshole.

[-] iegod@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

She can call people whatever she wants that's the point. You don't go to jail for calling me an asshole. Being forced to use speech that counters her actual thoughts is the part she's willing to go to jail for. You would likely do the same for your own beliefs.

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