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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[-] Affidavit@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

They’d rather stick with the de facto racist shit they’ve been putting aboriginals through obviously.

Opponents of the amendment weren't protesting in front of Parliament House to scrap the Racial Discrimination Act.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

They were just lying about the extent of the law to fear monger, true. Wonder if they might’ve said something when that act was initially passed though.

[-] Affidavit@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

The only people I have personally seen lying are 'Yes' supporters. For instance, I've seen none of this 'veto' nonsense that is allegedly being spread everywhere. The only 'No' pamphlets I received were pretty bloody accurate representations.

In your two replies to me you've created three different straw men; I don't think you need to worry about other people lying.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

If you haven’t seen it then it clearly doesn’t exist lol. Argument from anecdotal evidence is a huge logical fallacy.

You talk about rhetorical fallacies like you understand how to use them and it’s hilarious. You’re right though I should be more concerned with morons like you that eat up fallacious thinking.

[-] Affidavit@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Sharing my personal experience that I haven't personally been lied to is not a logical fallacy. Also, the burden of proof lies on the one making the claim, not the one negating it. You and other 'Yes' supporters can't go two minutes without claiming that, "THEY'RE SPREADING LIES!!!!", yet can never seem to back it up. You'd much rather wave your dick in the air calling everyone but your reflection a moron.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

It’s been backed up by a recent comment. It speaks volumes though that instead of reading the language of the bill to clarify you just throw out fallacies to defend your interpretation.

You’re claiming that an advisory body existing is racist and clearly don’t understand that this advisory body has no legislative power. It literally exists to just give opinions to actual lawmakers. That’s just one misrepresentation that people like you eat up uncritically.

[-] Affidavit@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, it was backed up by 'a recent comment'? Thank goodness that's cleared up. /s

Also, note that my original comment that you replied to explicitly used the wording from the proposed amendment that it was an advisory body that would make representations to parliament. Using the actual wording is hardly a misrepresentation. If my wording upset you, then maybe you should have voted 'No'.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You used the actual wording yes but your understanding of the bill is still vapid.

It’s not race based and has no legal power to enforce anything. I’m not upset by the original wording. I’m bothered by your stubborn refusal to look at this beyond your previously conceived value judgements.

And yes, another comment sourced you information you shoved off your high chair like a toddler because they didn’t chew it up for you so you could swallow the mash without thinking too hard about chewing. Congrats on the snark, it’s the only thing you’re good at.

[-] OriginalUsername@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you on about

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