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[-] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Is it? The Big 3 have made significant concessions at this point. There Is a certain level where a plant like that could move to Mexico. Dodge Ram has about half of its production in Mexico and their sales volume has not been impacted.

Just to keep the record straight, they are currently offering elimination of tiers, 3 years to the max wage level, 23% pay increase, COLA reinstatement. This puts their workers in a place to make $100k per year with no education at all after 3 years of work. Where else is that possible?

[-] noride@lemm.ee 119 points 2 years ago

Those concessions don't apply to their EV factories, both existing and new, meaning they are worthless in 5-10 years when they phase ICE out. They want, and frankly deserve, long term guarantees.

[-] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

"The company said it had offered pay increases of more than 20% to permanent workers, raises of 26% for temporary workers, the return of cost-of-living adjustments, a ratification bonus, increased 401(k) contributions, additional paid time off and "no job loss due to EV battery plants," among other things" https://www.axios.com/2023/10/12/uaw-strike-update-ford-shawn-fain

Incorrect. And you're dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

As of 10/4:

Ford has not agreed to restore defined-benefit pensions and company-financed health care in retirement for all workers. Ford says it is also opposed to a UAW demand to guarantee that future battery factories will offer the same pay and benefits as existing factories.

The UAW says that GM still isn’t meeting the union’s demands on cost-of-living adjustment to wages. And GM hasn’t agreed to allow workers to strike over plant closures.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/04/uaw-strike-automaker-offers/

[-] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

My article is from the 12th. Crazy thing about negotiations, your article from 10/4 is wrong. The date matters and you are providing outdated information.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The article you linked doesn't contradict, or even mention, the UAW demands and concerns I quoted from my article dated 10/4. Can you please provide an article stating that between the 4th and the time of your original comment, either of the specific concerns were addressed with concessions from Ford & GM? The meme is literally referencing the company's failure to update their offer since the last negotiation meeting.

Otherwise, I have to make the usual assumption of troll or disingenuous interlocutor.

Edit: Yup, UAW states quite clearly that the offer hadn't changed from two weeks ago. Please stop arguing in bad faith.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And you're dreaming if you think commercial trucks in particular (F-series and SuperDuty) move to all electric in the next 5-10 years

Check out the title of this article. GM is aiming to phase out ICE in 12 years. No it's not Ford, and goals aren't always met but the transition is happening sooner or later.

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