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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That was not what I was asking. They avoid killing them quite a bit, given the circumstances. Why would they do that if their goal was genocide?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Look up what plausible deniability is. The goal is genocide, but they can't just do genocide without pissing off the world. So they basically imprison 2.2 million people in a space the size of Seattle, destroy entire buildings, shoot unarmed people in Palestinian territory, bulldoze Palestinian homes or outright take them and give them to Israeli settlers. This naturally pisses people off. Hamas fires rockets in response. Israel blows even more shit up in response. They perpetuate the cycle put into motion when the UK stole Palestinian land and gave it to Israel.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Let's not get the sequence of events wrong. Israel faced existential threads from day one of declaring independence, where the surrounding states immediately attacked. There was and is no compromise for Palestine, they want to destroy Israel. That is their official goal, not some secret or conspiracy.

Palestine is not a prison because they are super nice people and Israel is evil. The issue is terrorism. Israel needs to deal with it some way. You can argue that there are better ways, certainly. And that Israel is doing a crap job, like US prisons.

What is Israel supposed to do now? What would your plan be? More than one out of every 10'000 of your fellow people just got murdered. That's like 46'000 people if it were the USA. That is the scale.

If we look at history, for example Nazis, do you think it was right to bomb Germany to the ground?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Well, you generally don’t declare to the world you’re doing genocide. You ask for forgiveness, not permission.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

They have another, competing goal of getting cheap labor out of the Palestinians.

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