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[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 40 points 2 years ago

You realize most of them aren’t even legally allowed to leave, right?

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

They can't just keep turning their people into combatants and not expect to be suppressed for it.

Steps can't be skipped when they threaten the security of Israel.

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 27 points 2 years ago

Egypt allows in only a few hundred Gaza travelers a day, so Hamas maintains a months-long waiting list. Those who pay for "coordination" — a bribe believed to be pocketed by authorities on both sides of the border — get bumped higher up the list.

Lots of innocent young people are just trying to get away, but can’t and are going to get destroyed because of these two extreme sides.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/04/733487137/i-want-to-get-the-hell-out-of-here-thousands-of-palestinians-are-leaving-gaza

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Egypt is wary of Palestinians, I wonder why. /s

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Historically humanity has not treated “outsiders” to their in-groups very well.

Maybe it’s some form of human instinct from countless generations of violence against ourselves, it’s hard to say.

Either way we shouldn’t let basic fears get in the way of helping each other.

The overwhelming vast majority of PEOPLE in the Gaza Strip are innocent civilians just like you and me, and want nothing to do with this nonsense.

Families began stockpiling food as soon as Saturday's attack began but fear that despite Hamas assurances supplies will run low.

With Israel cutting off electricity supplies into Gaza, a looming fuel shortage means private generators as well as the enclave's own power station, which is still providing about four hours of energy a day, will struggle to function.

Electricity shortages mean residents cannot recharge phones, so are cut off from news of each other and from events, and are unable to pump water into rooftop tanks.

At night the enclave is plunged into total darkness, punctuated by the blasts of air strikes.

War is indeed hell, my friend.

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Too bad, because they clearly harbor terrorists who have invited war on them.

Am I supposed to feel bad when they FAFO?

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Yes. Most people are innocent civilians and none of them asked for this shit. Many of them were born into it, and they don’t even have the option to leave due to the blockade.

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

they clearly harbor terrorists

Most people are innocent civilians and none of them asked for this shit.

So instead of working with Israel, they chose to let Hamas represent them. Makes sense.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

You think any of this is democratic? Most Gazans have never voted in an election

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And how does this undermine their ability to reject Hamas? They could have worked with Israel if they disagreed with Hamas and all that they do.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

Is this supposed to be some sort of racist “terrorist until proven innocent” argument? The world isn’t as simple as “Just overthrow your government if they’re bad”.

[-] Anduin1357@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You made a strawman here, not all Palestinians are terrorists. I also didn't make the argument that Palestinians are expected to overthrow Hamas.

Palestinians can undermine Hamas by giving information to the IDF.

[-] kugel7c@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

Which is a stupid thing to say knowing full well that the IDF doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, or anything said by them. The IDF and the Israeli police and public regularly take Palestinian land, harrass their people, as well as jail and kill them. How would any Palestinians suffering from that situation even begin to trust the IDF for anything.

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

War is indeed hell, my friend.

I prefer Hawkeye's take: War is war and hell is hell...

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