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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

You think every Palestinian is doing that?

That's the main use of propaganda, take some isolated incidents that really did happen nd really are inexcusable, and amplify the shit out of that so people think the whole side is doing that.

The militaries of both sides are doing awful shit, but only one side has the power to enforce peace.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

You think every Palestinian is doing that?

Which part of "Hamas awful actions" made you think that I extend this to all Palestinians?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I mean, at the same time I can’t support mass rape. Or rape in general

If the actions of a few are enough for you not to support Palestinians...

Then yeah, you're extending that to all Palestinians.

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why do I need to support mass rape to support the Palestinian peoples right to a state and a free life?

At what point is mass rape necessary for that?

Rape is wrong and I stand by that in what appears to be a surprisingly controversial move.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You don't...

No one said you had to, even suggested you should...

But when you take the actions of a few and blame an entire population for the actions of those few...

That's bigotry. That's no different than seeing a gay child abuser and claiming all gay people abuse children, or seeing a Black drug dealer and saying all Black people are now drug dealers.

Hell, I'm American and was in the military. American military members rape other American military members at a truly disturbing rate. Does that mean I'm guilty because I belong to the same population? To take it even further, do you blame those victims as well?

Do you legitimately not understand? Because I'm starting to have doubts on your sincerity

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

I don't know why you keep insisting that I disavow all Palestinians.

That deep into the thread I don't know if you're willfully ignorant just to score some points against someone that isn't me.

To spell it out again: I think rape is bad. I think that Palestina should be a state. If that's somehow incompatible to you, you need to check yourself.

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