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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 85 points 1 year ago

I have a feeling that was the plan all along

Intentionally antagonize the Palestinians that's already been antagonized for decades .... push them over the edge to make them make the first move.

Then once the first move is made .... move in and completely annihilate them under the guise of justified retaliation.

When it comes to one of the most well organized, well trained, well funded militaries and intelligence organizations in the world .... I don't think anyone can surprise them with a major attack.

The Israelis knew this would happen .... because they know how they will respond.

[-] Reddugee@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Thousands injured, almost a thousand murdered and hundreds kidnapped including women and children sounds like "the plan" to you? I'm not saying they're saints but how can you say a country would go to war as a PR move just to see their already antagonized enemies suffer? This attack was planned for about a year with the help of Iran on a shabbat, alongside a rocket barrage to keep soldiers from mobilizing and joining in to help, but you honestly believe Israel were the ones who planned this.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 year ago

Israel has been executing their apartheid plan for 80 years.

Palestinian attack as justification for massive Israeli reprisal has been part of their plan for nearly as long.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

his attack was planned for about a year with the help of Iran

There has been no evidence of Iran helping to plan the attack. That's a fake news story that is going around.

[-] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Always be sure to capitalise on a crisis.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

It's not a traditional plan where everything is controlled.

It's an orchestrated set of circumstances where you place your opponent in a difficult situation and force them to make the first move.

Then when your opponent makes the first move, you can carry out what you want without being blamed for starting anything.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

America did it in 2001, and Israel is at least as morally bankrupt as the US.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Of course you believe in such conspiracy theories.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The idea that the guys in government in Israel care for the lives of a few thousand people is as funny as it gets.

I mean weren't Israelis recently demonstrating because these very same people wanted to destroy the independence of the Judiciary, which is required for it to function as a Pillar of Democracy, so in effect wanted to undermine Democracy and spread autocracy in Israel from a problem only of people with Arab Citizenship to people with Jewish Citizenship (yeah, Israel, uniquelly amongst "democracies" has a concept of citizenship with associated rights which is separate from nationality).

You can't seriously belive such people care for a few thousand lives, no mater their nationality, especially if their deaths can be turned into a way to hold on to power and escape Justice (how's Bibi process going?).

[-] Tarzan9192@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, even if they just had a general retaliation plan in case this ever happened...it is hard to believe Israel, with all its Western support, didn't see this coming. And they have been bombing Gaza indescriminatly for years, with the only justification being "Well, Hamas was there, probably..."

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