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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Climate activists want to, among other things, pass extremely unpopular carbon taxes as they're the most serious effort toward cutting fossil fuels usage

Extremely unpopular ideas that inevitably favor certain products are not always moves to sell those products, is the point

It's pretty reasonable to assume no one outside the UK knows much about Sunak's history with handouts to friends.

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago

Who are carbon taxes unpopular with? Aside from politicians?

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The people that have to pay them, I assume

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People who don't understand we need to break our addiction to petroleum based fuel. Also People who make money off of petroleum based products.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think you overestimate the size of these two groups. The group of people who care more about their own financials is likely a lot larger.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Don't care thier fucking size.

I care how loud these choads are and how many they might sway.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because the number of people voting for something is irrelevant? Yeah, makes sense.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago
[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Then you're missing the point to begin with.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

And you don't have a good one.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe try practising your reading comprehension a bit more, then I'm sure you'll understand it eventually.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Good luck eating and drinking money.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I never said that I agreed with them.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's a matter of proper implementation. Tax & dividend! Distribute the tax revenue to the population per capita.

That means:

  • If your emissions are average, you pay/earn net zero.
  • If you emit more than average, you pay. This will affect mostly rich people, since emissions strongly correlate with available money.
  • If you emit less than average, you net earn. This effectively rewards people with money gained for emissions prevented.

Since money is distributed unequally in society, this means most people will have to pay less in such a system.

The beautiful thing is, the financial incentive to emit less remains even for people who gain more than they pay. It's also an incentive both for buyers and sellers, researchers and investors.

this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
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