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Elon Musk attacked German support for migrants and promoted a call to support the AfD, a far-right extremist political party (www.businessinsider.com)
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In the post shared by Musk, the account lamented the presence of humanitarian groups in the Mediterranean Sea that rescue migrants from distressed vessels.

"These NGOs are subsidized by the German government," the account posted. "Let's hope AfD wins the elections to stop this European suicide."

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[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are moving the goal post around because you got hung up on some stupid false information you don't want to admit was wrong.

Sorry, I won't request access to records at court for you, since you don't want to believe or don't understand the links I already posted. If you want to get access to the court documents about Mirko Welsch (lol) you can do so here, for example: https://www.saarland.de/lgsb/DE/home/home_node.html

I hate if people try to put things out as facts that simply are not facts. Because it will always bring more problems. I tried to explain why this will lead to problems, an explanation you ignored.

This is what you said:

But: AfD members have called for a second Holocaust … the execution of refugees … the imprisonment of homosexuals … the creation of a new SA … the imprisonment of left wingers in Buchenwald … and practicing apartheid.

What I am surprised by is that Germany is allowing politicians to advocate specific Nazi atrocities when there are purportedly laws against glorifying Nazis.

And that is not true. You saw yourself and I explained and showed to you that some of these were false and the others were trialed. But it's like you really want it to be true.

Now you are trying to twist it around, it doesn't matter that it's not really AFD members. You aktschually didn't really mean to say it's the political party who said it, just in general.

And we'll, yeah, perhaps there were trials against those people who said it, even though they weren't politicians, but that also doesn't count because you just don't want to admit that your original post was false.

Instead you now switch on full virtue signaling mode and when I try to correct what you wrote you can go all "you are just trying to defend Nazis" on me. Sure. What a very constructive discussion.

[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This is what you said: (note: omitted for brevity)

That was something I quoted after you asked where I got my information. It's from the person I replied to. Which is why it is formatted as a quote in my post. I thought the connection that it was the same text might be obvious given it repeats the text I replied to, just without the names for brevity.

Then, I checked the Buchenwald quote and it was real, and then i provided you with that info. And then I noticed the factchecker had a bunch of other horrible quotes alongside it that were also awful and consistent with Nazis, which suggests AfD might not have a lone-nazi issue. But you told me they were all not valid for various reasons that were not in the factcheck or any other source.

https://www.saarland.de/lgsb/DE/home/home_node.html

Thanks to the link for a court homepage which didn't show anything. It's good to know that you have been able to post links to any independent information that would clarify any of the incidents the entire time, but for some unknown reason, you chose not to.

I'm still not certain which part of Welsch's tweet advocating for Buchenwald I misunderstood.I would have loved to have been wrong about that happening, but you never provided anything to suggest it didn't - beyond your own opinion.

full virtue signaling mode

Uh huh. "Virtue signalling" is one of those stale internet catchphrases popularised by the conservative media to trivialise real problems and deride empathy. And yet, I would still rather be accused of virtue signalling than look like I'm attempting appeasement of far right extremists by advocating for not using the accurate words which hurt their feelings.

If you think you can win over far right extremists by appealing to their sensibilities, fine, have at it. Many of us are not human enough in their eyes to be listened to in the first place, so I'm just going to keep calling ducks 'ducks'.

I have learnt a lot from all this, thankyou for the education.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I guess you are just a right wing troll trying to make the left look bad. My fault for falling to that old trick..

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