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submitted 1 year ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We've come far, and have further to go!

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Hey OP, this is a book about just that: https://www.amazon.com/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better/dp/1250107814

This is a website that goes along with it and has updated stats: https://www.gapminder.org/factfulness-book/32-improvements/

Basically everything is getting better, despite public opinion to the contrary. The one thing (as this thread is harping on) is climate change, and ya, that's big, but it is good to acknowledge that most other things are changing for the better in most ways.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In the US every single one of those indicators is going the other way. It's only by looking globally that you can say that.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well fuck the rest of the world, amirite? U S A! U S A! U S A!

US income inequality plummeted under Roosevelt (inequality coefficient: 0.59 - 0.47) and began its steady climb under Regan. It leveled out in 2012 under Obama (0.58) and had a slight dip (0.58 - 0.57 - 0.58) in 2020 under Trump. We're almost back to where we started when Roosevelt took measures to help. The USA has, however consistently been well below the world average for income inequality (0.71- 0.66). https://ourworldindata.org/economic-inequality

Infant/Child mortality rate hasn't raised anywhere since 1960 and is lower everywhere than it was in 1950, and yes the USA is still winning:

https://ourworldindata.org/child-mortality

Extreme poverty is trending downward faster in the US than the world average:

https://ourworldindata.org/poverty

[-] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this research, it gives great perspective.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The wealth gap between the US and citizens of dirt-poor nations is insane. People live on less in a day than I make in a few minutes. I don't mind losing a little to help bring others up, and, since it's not zero-sum, it ends up being a larger plus overall than the minus for us.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If that's where it was going I wouldn't mind but researchers have tracked the missing wages and extra profits to the 1 percent.

When you think about what people live on in other countries you also have to think about what things cost around them. An apple, for example, is far cheaper for them to buy. That said there are still people in poverty even with that in mind and they should be helped. But that's not what's causing the inequality gap in western countries and it's far overblown as an argument to make Westerners ashamed to complain while they are exploited by the extremely wealthy.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The gap isn't necessarily bad. It's the things that cause it (and that the rising tide isn't lifting all boats) that's the problem.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This gap very much is. It's way too much for any sustainable society.

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