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Just 1% of people are responsible for half of all toxic emissions from flying.

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[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everyone in these comments so far is misrepresenting the information here and arguing off of an incorrect assumption.

This is NOT saying that the 1% wealthiest people are responsible for half of these emissions. This is saying that 1% of travellers are responsible for half these emissions because those travelers travel so frequently. It has nothing to do with their wealth or using private jets. It's about how much they're flying.

Source: From the study linked in the petition: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307779

"1% of world population emits 50% of CO2 from commercial aviation." Not private jets. Commercial aviation.

"Data also supports that a minor share of air travelers is responsible for a large share of warming: The percentile of the most frequent fliers – at most 1% of the world population - likely accounts for more than half of the total emissions from passenger air travel."

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

"Everyone in these comments doesn't understand"

You've been arguing against me that commercial flights aren't an issue because I've pointed out the same fucking thing 7h before you!

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I never said that. I said that they’re not as big of an issue as cars. You’re lying. If you’re going to focus your efforts, as I’ve stated now multiple times, it would be more impactful to tell people to drive less, not more. Airline travel is more efficient than driving.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

When used for passengers and for the same purpose, no they're not. They only are if they're used for the same distance and the car has one passenger and the plane is full, but I'm sure even you realise how disingenuous that comparison is.

[-] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably the stupidest statement I've read today

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well then, I’m sorry that you have to live life as an idiot. That must be tough.

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“A new report from the University of Michigan’s Transportation Research Institute shows that flying has become 74% more efficient per passenger since 1970 while driving gained only 17% efficiency per passenger. In fact, the average plane trip has been more fuel efficient than the average car trip since as far back as 2000, according to their calculations.”

http://websites.umich.edu/~umtriswt/PDF/UMTRI-2014-2_Abstract_English.pdf

“The main findings are that to make driving less energy intensive than flying, the fuel economy of the entire fleet of light-duty vehicles would have to improve from the current 21.5 mpg to at least 33.8 mpg, or vehicle load would have to increase from the current 1.38 persons to at least 2.3 persons.”

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2015/09/evolving-climate-math-of-flying-vs-driving/

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