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THE BBC has been asked to explain why it has not reported on a large-scale anti-Brexit rally in the centre of London ...

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[-] towerful@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Our laws are currently fairly inline with EU laws. It's less work to fully align them now than in 10 years, when the Tories have fully dismantled workers/privacy/consumer/human rights.

And I have no issue with the Euro. We still get to do our own artwork on the notes/coins.
We clearly need immigration to cover the jobs people don't want to do, despite the fact that the "they took our jobs" group would whine about work they personally don't want to do being done by others.
It would simplify and clear up our trade, just-in-time logistics for all manor of things, and likely put the UK in a better position as an "English speaking HQ of Europe" for companies.

Ultimately tho, theres going to be a decade of shit to wade through before any potential benefits of Brexit actually come around.
This was a huge talking point about Scottish Independence ("yeh, but you'd be fucked" "oh sure, but after 5-10 years we would be in a better position"). It's fair to say the same applies to brexit (although the benefits of brexit are a lot less apparent to me)

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 8 points 1 year ago

All of the benefits (so far as I can tell) were always theoretical. We can make our own trade deals. Except, previously trade deals were made on our behalf as part of a trading bloc that included us, Germany, France, Italy, The nordics (mostly via the EEA) and the rest of Europe. How was there ever a serious expectation we'd get a better deal as a fraction of that bargaining power? So, a theoretical benefit that's extremely unlikely to pan out to our advantage.

Taking control of our borders? How has that worked out for us? Not too well so far it seems.

Yeah, it's crap. But I feel like some more of those brexit supporting business owners need to eat some more humble pie before we ever try to go back.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I don't buy tunnocks, dyson, or go to a weatherspoon.
No doubt there are other companies I don't realise were pro-brexit.

I know the whole "ooh look at you and your personal boycott changing the world" bullshit. Fuck it, I'm still doing it. This is my hill of beans to die on.
It's like recycling, reducing consumption etc. Yeh, big companies are contributing more to climate change and they really are the ones that need to change. But I can't hate on them if I'm not trying to help the situation.

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