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Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago

You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won't. The problem is all the frderal governments that have stopped building social housing twenty years ago. A deficit of millions of low cost units is there problem, not new people in the country.

Blame your concerned conservative and liberal leaders for the last twenty years, not the brown skinned guy trying to feed his kids.

[-] phx@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won't

Or, to put it another way: shitty corps and their govt lackeys need those pliable immigrants to work for the underpaid and abusive jobs that Canadians won't, rather than fixing the pay and working conditions

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Ding ding ding

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

Blame your concerned conservative and liberal leaders for the last twenty years, not the brown skinned guy trying to feed his kids.

Am I crazy or is that not exactly what the comment you replied to did? I didn't see any racism or blame against Indians, it was entirely blaming the Canadian government for their immigration policies. I don't know that I agree with the OP you replied to, but we should be able to have this conversation without devolving into "well you're racist"

You need those immigrants to work the low wages you won't.

I'd be interested to see some stats on average wages of Indian immigrants if you have any. There are a ton of Indians in my industry (tech) and they are very skilled and make very good wages. Imo they're a valuable asset to my industry and I don't believe they bring the average salaries down, but I don't agree with the mindset that every immigrant is working at Tim Hortons or something.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

While this thread is about India, immigrants come from all over the world. Some work IT, some work health care, many work the service industry, many drive trucks, many clean buildings, many work on farms, and so on.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, this thread is about India, hence why I said:

I'd be interested to see some stats on average wages of Indian immigrants if you have any

Your response is goalpost moving and hand wavy.

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The problem is that bringing in TFW’s to work at Tim Hortons allows the shitty food chain to keep their wages artificially low.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

So stop shopping there, don't support the bullshit. Start talking to the workers about unionizing.

Rich people are fucking you over. They'll do whatever they can get away with. And they're successfully convincing people that people that don't look like you are the problem.

Don't kid yourself, they can raise wages plety without affecting the price of your coffee, but they won't touch their profit margin so the extra cost gets passed to the consumer.

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Agreed.

And I don’t. Haven’t been to Tim Hortons more than twice in the last 6 years.

I’m with you.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Totally agree with the sentiment, but if I were to boycott everything I disagree with I'd be a hermit living in the woods... actually that doesn't sound terrible

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 5 points 1 year ago

Gee if no one is working for those low wages, the solution is for wages to rise not to bring in more workers to sustain poverty wages.

[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You'd think so, but the people that own the land and equipment also spend money on politicians that keep that kind of policy from passing into law.

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