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submitted 1 year ago by SamC@lemmy.nz to c/support@lemmy.nz

It's a pact to block Meta (as in Facebook) run instances if they appear. Obviously up to @Dave to sign, but wondering what people think

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[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

It's not clear exactly what they're building, but the product is apparently called "Threads".

The big worry is embrace, extend, extinguish, which Facebook and Google did to XMPP. Seems likely Facebook will try the same strategy with the fediverse.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Ooh, ok, the article I read about it was a couple of weeks back. It didn't mention a name. People seem to think they are trying to capitalise on the twitter collapse, but "Threads" sounds more like reddit. It might be something more like facebook groups/pages, where you can follow a brand or celebrity, they make posts, and people can reply under them?

I'm interested to see it, but I don't really use facebook so probably won't use it but will probably look at it.

The big worry is embrace, extend, extinguish, which Facebook and Google did to XMPP. Seems likely Facebook will try the same strategy with the fediverse.

Yeah, I get that. But I'm not sure refusing to federate with them really does much. Meta will make deals with some big instances that have celebrities on them, then people will flood there and lots of people will be on the Meta one. I don't really believe in the "it's not going to make a difference so why do it" idea in general, but I'm not really sure what the intention is to refuse to federate. At a later point when Meta starts trying to push others into a protocol change to suit them, then people can split then. Significant numbers of people will leave, and Mastodon/Fediverse will be a niche little platform hardly anyone users - but that's what it is now.

[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Remember that you can also create threads on Twitter. So, hence the name. And according to some media, screenshots show interaction with Mastodon users. I don't think it'll be a threat for Lemmy/Kbin, PeerTube, Funkwhale or other services, but if any danger or threat, it would be for Mastodon, Pleroma, Misskey, Akkoma, Calckey, and maybe Friendica and Pixelfed. But it's too early to create facts. I need tangible or visible evidences, not speculations.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah thanks, I'm not very familiar with Twitter.

One thing to remember is that people can subscribe to communities and comment on posts (~~maybe make posts~~) from Mastodon. So we may start seeing Meta users on Lemmy.

[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

As far as I know, posts cannot be created from Mastodon. Only from Lemmy or Kbin.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for confirming. I know I've seen people commenting from Mastodon but didn't think I'd seen any posts.

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