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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Maxcoffee@kbin.social to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social

Reddit used to be a great platform to discuss some topic and get different points of few in a friendly but factual manner. However, slowly it seems like the platform has become a lot more like Facebook, where it's been invaded by toxic people that are constantly looking for opportunities to shit and hate on others.

The change has been gradual so I really didn't notice it creep up on me. It's become super evident now having used Kbin and others for a week or so where people generally seem to be more friendly again and willing to actually discuss things in a usually civil way.

The difference is stark too. Today I replied to a comment saying that I hope things turn out better for them and wound up in a weird comment chain about how people were apparently insensitive for wanting to get a basic haircut that they for some reason couldn't afford themselves. Meanwhile, Kbin and the Fediverse feels like a refreshing place to actually converse with people once you get past the clunk and figure it out.

I think Reddit may well have reached that main stream social media saturation point where it very objectively now sucks. It happened originally with the internet itself thanks to the rise of the smartphone and this is just another iteration of it. I feel like Spez might as well get that bag at this point because they've ruined what used to be the platform people went to for social media without the bullshit, without algorithms to drive "engagement" and to avoid the toxic culture that has prevailed.

Thanks for reading my rant.

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[-] postscarce@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

I think there are multiple reasons, but one I want to highlight is Reddit's shift towards driving engagement at all costs.

I used the "new" Reddit for a while, and I noticed that more and more it was trying to recommend posts and communities to me. "Popular with users in your area," "Similar to another community you visited," "You visited this community before". A lot of the time, these would be posts and communities that I didn't like or want on my feed.

I would venture to guess that these recommendations are putting people into contact with communities they wouldn't normally seek out, and since they're not a member of that community (and may even be hostile towards it), you get more people breaking community norms or trolling or antagonizing people, etc...

[-] Maxcoffee@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Hit the nail on the head with this. The phone app makes this especially apparent as the front page is a feed of stuff you're not subscribed to but rather what the algorithm thinks will drive engagement. The website with the new interface has the same approach but for now still retains the old functionality too or I think they would have had yet another riot on their hands.

[-] IncognitoErgoSum@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I wonder if that has anything to do with the popularity of subs that are about disliking things or groups of people. That kind of shit drives engagement but turns communities toxic really fast.

I use(d) RIF, which let me filter subs out of my feed and the experience has been a lot less horrid, except for when those subs leak their toxic waste into other discussions, which happens way to often.

[-] WhatASave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I had to do a culling of all those subs. I'm happy I don't even remember half of them now, but like choosingbeggars, aita, etc. Just pure negativity and toxicity but wildly popular.

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