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From my perspective, I like to talk with people who have different views. However, when those views are hate against people for their race/sexuality/ethnicity/etc then my patience goes away. Their ideas are just excuses to heap on more suffering to people for things outside of their control. Other than that I am open to debate.
That means you do want censorship and silencing of others at a certain point, even though what a person believes cause no harm to others, it's only when they act on it than it can be damaging.
It's better for people to speak freely without consequences so you know what a person truly believes so you know who to avoid. With censorship or silencing, you will never know who someone truly because they won't discuss, and that person could turn against you when they have an opportunity to hurt you because they had to stay silent about what they truly throught all along but you never knew because they were avoiding any consequences for what they believe in.
You do understand that when someone discusses their beliefs, and those beliefs are hateful, then they have actually caused harm and damage to others, right? They took the action of espousing those beliefs, and they should be accepting of the consequences of doing so.
Reading between the lines of your comment, you seem to be trying to bait others into saying something like "I want censorship of beliefs", in an attempt to then turn around and feel justified in your beliefs because others "want to censor you". If you are truly trying to do this, please have some dignity and stop. You are arguing like a child.
There is no such thing as suffering damage from a belief. Only physical action causes damage.
Only the weak minded get outraged over a statement or belief. Nobody can offend you unless you give them the permission and power to offend you. If want protection from reading or hearing things you don't like, it shows how under developed you are.
As soon as you go outside, a person can insult you and there's nothing you can do about it. If you physically attack someone for simply insulting you or mocking you, you are the criminal and it proves you have no self control, you are a delusional narcissist.
You can actually. somebody verbally assaulting you is a chargable assult offense, physical offense is called battery. You may think sombody isn't getting hurt but you are removing their right to free travel unmolested. free speech is fine unless you are infringing on anothers right. people who spread hate deserve being blocked. we don't have time in this short life to deal with hate filled lunatics.
You're taking a one dimensional position, viewing it from an emotional perspective vs. what the letter of the law actual says and what isthe standard to cross that threshold. Being high strung you can not make something a criminal offense that you deeply resent.
If there were no threats or direct intimidation, police don't respond when it's only bad words.
Seems like you are all for being nasty and hateful. I now see why you get blocked, and asked the question about it here. People don't want to deal with people that promote hate. Exception is other people who are hateful, then you may find long discourse about it.
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Hey, not cool. I am not a fan of hate as I said.
Its not hate lmao
For those hate filled debaters, I already know those points and to parrot them to me would be a waste of time. They would turn against me in real life anyway, because I was born a member of the groups they want to debate about. My existence is not up for debate and I would physically attack anyone that tries to rob me of my right to thrive. It’s tiring and downright nauseating to have your right to live free be up for public debate. No one else has to deal with that except for those of us the right wing targets. They don’t have to turn on the news and see folks condemned to prison, death, or worse because of who they are and think, “they are trying to make conditions here like that.”
Their strategy is to claim they can’t speak on their hate and then once they can they try to sway as many as they can to their side. Then you end up with laws targeting your right to thrive. Sorry, deplatforming for hate is the way to go.
And there it is. You finally show your true colours. Please stop trying to think so highly of yourself and leave this forum. This isn't "censorship", by the way. You are just an asshole.
please be respectful. you even mention it in your question:
Respectful of what?
respectful of other people.
I'm getting direct insults but I'm not complaining, that's how life goes.
and that's your choice. if continue to insult others, you will be banned.
Well, now the claws come out. Now explain to me how defending my right to thrive and not having it up for debate makes me weaker than someone who already has those rights and just wants to limit mine?
You live your life based on what other people says, you are looking for acknowledgement and permission from others.
If someone hates that you are alive, it causes you no harm and has no relevance to your life as long as that person is not restraining you or physically blocking your movements. If someone condems you, by you reacting to that you are giving them power over you.
Have you heard the phrase "Allowing someone to live in your head rent free"?
I don’t worry about individual people hating me. Nobody lives in my head rent free, but I do stay aware of the consequences of group hate. Giving that hate a platform allows it to grow to more people and become an issue. My people are under real attack and it would be foolish for me to ignore that.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/lgbtq-americans-are-under-attack-human-rights-campaign-declares-in-state-of-emergency-warning
So I am a fan of deplatforming hate. Other topics however, I am more than glad to talk about and debate about.