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What are your experiences with motorcycle gangs? (lemmy.ml)

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Hells Angels are moving into my area for the first time. I have a generally negative view of them, but have some friends who feel otherwise. I would love to hear your experiences related to the Angels specifically, but "1%" clubs as well.

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, many people want other drivers to drive recklessly without risk. I was wandering what's the other guy's motivation was.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Warning people of speed traps causes them to drive more safely, not less. Only cops get upset when you do this.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 2 points 1 year ago

Where I live all speed traps are clearly marked. Yes, their purpose should be to make people slow down, not catch them by surprise. But we're talking about warning about caps,nort just speed traps. If it's just unmarked speed traps I agree.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Because where I live cops are violent thugs and I don't want some dude whos only crime is speeding to get shot for it.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 1 year ago

I assume it's in the US? So you warn all the other drivers? Is it by flashing long beams like in Europe?

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Toggle lights off and on. Still hard to do. Often people are too stupid to understand and turn on their brights just to be a jackass.

Sounds like you're European, which explains some of your beliefs.

In the US, cops steal more than burglars: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23/cops-took-more-stuff-from-people-than-burglars-did-last-year/

Lie constantly about the violence they commit: https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

Plant evidence constantly:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-09/prosecutors-dismiss-charges-after-deputy-is-accused-of-planting-evidence

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/20/538279258/baltimore-police-caught-planting-drugs-in-body-cam-footage-public-defender-says

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/12/13/23507834/edny-fbi-investigating-nypd-drug-planting-allegations

and arrest black and brown people at a ridiculous rate: https://www.ppic.org/publication/racial-disparities-in-california-arrests/

https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/report-to-the-united-nations-on-racial-disparities-in-the-u-s-criminal-justice-system/

That doesn't even touch on our for-profit prison system and qualified immunity which allows them to get away with it more often than not.

In the US, they are nothing more than the gang that has ways to extort you.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You're basing all this on a whole lot of assumptions:

The only way one can get a ticket is because they were reckless
Driving outside the law, regardless of time and place, is automatically risky
Speed traps really make the roads safer for everyone

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming you're warning other drivers because you think they can change their behavior and avoid a fine. If it's unavoidable why warn them? It's not going to help anyone. So yeah, you can get a ticket for other things but reckless driving is the main one you can easily avoid when warned ahead of time.
Yes, driving outside the law is always risky. It's not up to individual drivers to decide when it's 'safe' to break the law. It's stupid to think that you can just decide that the laws do not apply to you because 'you know better'. Every single driver breaking the law thinks that they know better or that they can do it because they are a better driver than everyone else. Drivers like that can just go fuck themselves.
Speed traps that are clearly marked and enforce speed limit instead of just fining unsuspecting drivers do make roads safer.

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