417
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Alue42@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

Anorexia is actively harming the individual, exploring gender identity and expression is not. Additionally, the commenters (multiple!) told OP that they should seek out therapy in order to actively explore these ideas.

[-] Otome-chan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

encouraging transition without a medical condition that needs it, or encouraging transvestism, is indeed actively harming the individual. we've seen this time and time again. I've spoken with many people who got on hormone therapy because they were "encouraged" by communities like this, only to end up being harmed by it, regretting it, detransitioning, and being permanently scarred for life.

To say these individuals were not harmed is just objectively wrong.

[-] Alue42@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Again, literally NO ONE in that thread encouraged transition. The only thing being encouraged was that OP had to explore to figure it out themselves and that no one could tell them if they were trans except themselves.

I've spoken with many people who got on hormone therapy because they were "encouraged" by communities like this.

No, you haven't. Because that doesn't exist except in people's made up anger-fantasies in their heads when they try to come up with more reasons to get upset at trans-allies for.

[-] Stiqy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

"Because that doesn't exist"
Lets not get carried away here. Search "Detransition story" on YouTube, and do not silence or deny the experience of these people.

I can support LGBTQ people but not necessarily support every fringe ideology or practice that the LGBTQ movement is getting excited about and ramming down the pipe with the "hate" hammer poised to crush the slightest opposition voice. The idea that we have all the science and study we need to ethically approach chemically and surgically modifying children is more than a little arrogant and premature. It's okay to get a few more clinical studies and history under our belt. And listen to legitimate contrary voices in the medical, scientific, and LGBTQ community itself to see if there is merit to their concern, have answers for people who end up on the bad side of transition stories.

[-] Alue42@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

do not silence or deny the experience of these people

I am more than willing to listen to their experiences - as I very clearly explained to @otome-chan. She can explain her experience without claiming it to be 'speaking to a gender therapist means you will be urged into transitioning'

chemically and surgically modifying children is

A) NO ONE is surgically modifying children. Ever. That does not happen.
B) puberty blockers have been used for various medical issues since the 70s, and those who have gone off of them have gone on to live absolutely happy lives, having biological children in their own uteruses or with their own sperm, or whatever other talking points people are trying to cram in trying to say puberty blockers cause, no long term effects whatsoever. Is over 50 years of scientific data enough for you?

load more comments (14 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
417 points (100.0% liked)

sh.itjust.works Main Community

7716 readers
1 users here now

Home of the sh.itjust.works instance.

Matrix

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS