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What a dumb community. I'd be fucked without my car, so you're going to disparage me for using one? Sorry I don't live in fantasy land where public transport is readily available.
The way I perceived it is the point isn't to disparage people people for using cars but to point out how ridiculous car oriented infrastructure is. Places were designed to have poor alternatives to driving, that's the problem.
Try explaining to one them that people who live in rural areas kinda need a vehicle, and see what happens.
They're genuinely fucking dense.
Then maybe they should say that rather than having nothing but comments about death boxes on wheels.
That is just an argument against car-centric infrastructure, because with car-centric infrastructure people use those death machines more often, and more people die.
Nah, there's a lot of disparaging people for having cars in that community. Say one good thing about cars and you're immediately deemed "carbrained", no matter what the nuance of the situation may be.
This is the internet. Everything is black or white.
As far as I've seen they only disparge people for having these gigantic pickup trucks because they're kinda really dangerous to pedestrians in traffic.
Fuck cars refers to what they caused with car centric infrastructure. The lobbying that reduced that "fantasy" of public transport to rubble. It's advocating for people centric cities.
At least check what is about before getting offended.
This is it 100%
The idea of fuck cars isn't to make drivers lives worse but to make everyone who can't drive for any number of reasons (age, finances, anxieties and other disabilities, etc) have access to an equitable life.
My brother has crippling anxiety behind the wheel. He's tried driving and physically cannot do it without putting his life and the lives of those around him in danger. Should his life be worse, or should he be subjected to only living in dense metro areas his whole life because of this? Or should he have a viable transportation option no matter where he lives?
That's the real idea behind fuck cars. Unfortunately when people with so much are asked to share with people with little to nothing, they see it as an attack on their freedom (which only goes one way) rather than a equalization of the playing field.
These days people get offended for even the tiniest thing lol
I think the point of the community isn't 'Fuck you for driving a car!' but more like 'We should focus on affordable public transport, proper cycling lanes and walkable neighbourhoods instead of focussing on expanding car infrastructure, turning nature parks into parking lots and urban sprawl'.
And that's exactly the point of this community. We don't want you to just stop using your car. We want you to have the choice to stop using the car. We hate the fact that car-centered infrastructure led to the point where you can't go anywhere without a car.
This is an issue because first of all, cars are the thing that makes traffic as dangerous as it is for pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers. Secondly they create traffic jams and everyone hates those. Thirdly, something something CO2 something something climate change, you know the jazz. Fourthly, not everyone can afford a car, driving lessons to get a licence, petrol and car insurance.
I could keep going but I hope you see why infrastructure more centered around pedestrians, cyclists and public transport could lead to safer and quicker traffic, cleaner air, lower emissions and more freedom for those who can't afford it.
Yes fantasy world of most of the other developed nations. Even some under developed ones