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[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When your group is so left wing that all your real big arguments are against the radical side of your ideology rather than the other side! Somewhere there's a fiscal conservative arguing against a guy screaming about anarcho-capitalism on parler or something.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

"Fiscal conservative" is a nonsense term anyway, I suspect. It doesn't really mean anything. I'd venture nearly everyone who uses it is either philosophically confused or else is a genuine conservative that thinks if they say "small government" enough it will cover their genuine desire to crush civil rights of people outside of their tribe.

The smallest and most efficient government possible that delivers the services of the government is what nearly everyone wants. The only people who don't want this are the fascists who want the biggest and strongest government possible in order to bully everyone else.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gotcha, labels of different ideologies are meaningless to you because you prefer to bucket everyone in them because it makes it easier for you to deal with emotionally, got that one? Not that I don't agree with you, I'm here to after all.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Labels are incredibly useful, but only if they're definable. I don't think "fiscal conservative" has a coherent definition.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's fair, I don't think the US has had a strong class of RoI conservatives in a long time. Now "fiscal conservative" means more someone who has classically voted Republican but not because of religiosity or because they hate LGBT people. At this point you can't even point to a good reason, beyond a feeling like they want to be taxed less.

If you aren't making somewhere north of half a mil a year, or don't have capital gains (15-50% tax on millions of dollars of inheritance really sucks to worry about), voting conservative might as well be cutting of your nose to spite your face.

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