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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do people use Spotify still? Momentum?

Edited for clarity, I'm not saying music streaming I'm specifically referring to getting it from one company.

Whose CEO heavily invests in military AI

And pays artists' (and of course labels) the least out of their competitors?

[-] Mordachai_Shedbacon@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

It's convenient. It's where all my playlists are... that said, I'm open to alternatives?

[-] krimsonbun 7 points 1 year ago

download mp3s from youtube. Use rhythmbox on linux and metro on android. Metro even tries to find the lyrics online

[-] iso@lemy.lol 67 points 1 year ago

Now thats what inconvenient is.

[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Yup, can understand if your library is small, but for bigger libraries that's definitely the most inconvenient thing you can do.

Speaking from experience because I was basically forced to do it that way when I didn't have regular internet access yet. My library was longer than 50 days. Just Hip-Hop alone was above 100GB.

I used to find a shitton of music that way, but the inconvenience was real. Worst was music that I had to tag myself for example. Love mp3tag but that's shit.

[-] krimsonbun 6 points 1 year ago

I find it inconvenient to have limited skips and depend on one service to give you the song you want with the version you want. Also spotify ui doesn't make sense to me, things just don't work at times. Not to mention the ads.

[-] zpoex@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

If you pay for premium you won't have most of those problems...

[-] krimsonbun 3 points 1 year ago

I don't like paid services, especially when you can get the same or most of the same stuff for free. It's just not worth it for me, so that is my suggested alternative, doesn't work for everyone.

[-] zpoex@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Not really trying to argue with you but we were not discussing your preference haha😅 Just trying to say spotify premium is pretty convenient at a cheap price

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[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There's cracked apks out there for Spotify if you're completely against paying

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[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Mp3s from YT are garbage quality, it's double transcoding from YT's already low quality input.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah. If you’re gonna be downloading music from youtube, might as well just torrent flac or at least 320kbps quality instead.

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[-] Destragras@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

You can download audio from YouTube as 160kbps opus files, which aren't lossless sure but it's the highest quality you can get from YouTube if alternate means aren't an option.

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

And that's trusting that whoever uploaded the track had a good quality source. And it's still double encoded.

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[-] krimsonbun 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't noticed any quality issues and I only listen to mp3s from youtube

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[-] jochem@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

I was big into downloading before streaming services were a thing. Music streaming is one of the few services that's totally worth my money: no hassle and I rarely have to resort to other platforms to find what I want (very different from video streaming, which totally sucks when it comes to that).

[-] ribboo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

100% this. Paying $12 a month for basically all music I’ll ever want to listen to, is just an amazing deal. It’s so convenient. Felt the same when Netflix came about. But now when I need like 6 services, and there’s still lots not on them. Piracy is just so much more convenient.

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[-] glacier 4 points 1 year ago

That is what I do, however it is very tedious when you want to listen to full albums, and add info to the file such as the album art and artist. Services like Spotify also sync your Library and playlist automatically across devices.

[-] Sekoia 2 points 1 year ago

I made myself a python script to automatically tag and download entire albums from youtube at a time. I use syncthing to automatically sync it all. Quality isn't the best but I can't tell anyway so

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Fwiw, some youtube to mp3 converters will let you convert full playlists (don't remember which, but there are a few).

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[-] Psychonaut1969@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Can I use any of those at the same time I am playing a game on ps3/ps4/ps5 they way they have integrated spotify? I use spotify because it is available on the devices I use. I would use bandcamp on them if it were an option as I love my collection there but, it is not available on many of the devices I use.

[-] krimsonbun 2 points 1 year ago

personally I don't find that convinience worth it for the money/ads and other inconveniences, but that varies from person to person

[-] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago
  1. Listen on YT with adblock
  2. Download audio with Newpipe (OPUS 160kbps)
  3. Manage files with Amaze
  4. Listen with VLC

I like this model, because YT has niche creators and I dont have to care about "Spotify changes X" news. Note: I have 1.5GB songs stored locally and listen ~30 minutes daily. I acknowledge discovering new songs is slower

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, piracy, but I'd say apple music or tidal, etc are even better than Spotify. There are services for transferring your playlists.

Some are paid but if it's just a one time transfer you could do them all in a free trial window.

[-] stagen@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago

Been using Soundiiz.com for that!

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

You can just use NewPipe background player. NewPipe lets you create and save playlists. No ads.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

I don't get why anyone would use the free tier - not being able to choose songs would actually drive me insane, let alone the ads - but $11 monthly for essentially all the music anyone could ever want, plus solid playlists and recommendations, is a perfectly good value for me. Admittedly, I listen to music all the time and it's a pretty big part of my life, so it's an easy sell.

I guess the free tier is still an improvement over radio, but regardless, producing and distributing music has costs, and I'm more than happy to pay for it. Given that Spotify isn't even profitable, having lost about a billion dollars last year, I'm not sure how long this situation will last, but for the time being, I really don't mind it.

[-] Iceblade02@lemdit.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

11$/month is 132$/yr. That's a significant amount of money - about the same as my car insurance, broadband or phone bill. Putting a bunch of good music in a playlist and letting it roll is nice enough, especially with a 3rd party app to mute ads automatically. Besides, I don't feel sorry for Spotify. The reason they're hemorrhaging money isn't a lack of profitability, but due to the massive royalties going to record companies.

E: spelling

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

For the median American that works full-time, who earns around $56,000, the cost of Spotify is 0.2% of their income.

Obviously everyone is in their own financial situation and for some people that will still be a burden. But for sake of comparison, in 1989, the average cost of cable TV was $18, and that's of course in 1989 dollars. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that $11 for unlimited access to basically all music at any time is a pretty good value for the money.

That said, if it is still onerous to someone, they're obviously not in ideal circumstances and I'm really not gonna fault them for just pirating.

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[-] blargerer@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Momentum is the driving force behind all enshitification.

[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You nailed it. People’ve been using it for so long they don’t want to use any number of paid or free services to automatically move all their playlists and whatnot over to a different service.

[-] CybranM@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

What would you suggest as an alternative?

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[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The random algorithm needs to be polished though.

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Random usually sucks for everything that I've used.

They should have two... True random and one that 'radioifies' your library.

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