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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago

Ok but the alternatives are not environmentally conscious either, finally the people who’s land it is should be the ones making choices about the conditions of that land

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

The alternative is to stop using people of Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia.

[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

The people of Ukraine seem to have a somewhat different view on the matter

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

That's a really convenient narrative based on the fallacy of homogenizing Ukraine. Let's take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here's the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

here's how the election in 2004 went:

this is the 2010 election:

As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

Maybe learn a bit about the subject first.

[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

election in 2004

2010 election

I wonder if anything of note happened between then and now, in other news Donald Trump is still president and gay marriage is illegal in the US

Maybe learn a bit about the subject first.

I suggest you go to Kyiv in the grocery store and explain this to the workers there

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, things of note definitely happened since then

I suggest you go to Donbas and explain the above to people there that the regime you support has been maiming for the past decade.

[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

le regime

you can take the Redditor out of reddit but ... speaking of which, are you updooting your own replies?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Ah look at you resorting to personal attacks like the clown you are. Also, given that you've been here for 3 months we both know who the redditor here is.

[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

the clown you are

stop talking like a jojo villain

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago
[-] FireMyth@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

What I see is a very deliberate attempt of russia to try to breed out an ethnicity in an attempt to create a reason to take more land. Which is exactly what happened- maybe learn about the subject first.

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[-] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Then why don't you ask Russia to withdraw, wouldn't that be easier?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Russia is obviously not going to withdraw, and you or me asking Russia to withdraw isn't going to make it happen. However, people living in western countries do have at least some influence on their own regimes. Of course, the reason western regimes can keep the proxy war going is precisely because a lot of scumbags are cheering it on right now.

[-] FireMyth@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

Lol the people of ukraine are fighting against a war of aggression from Russia. That's it.

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The alternative bring tungsten? It's very stable so anything besides eating a spent rod isn't going to have effects. If it's in the air it'll just be inert. Even if it gets in your lungs it'll be like any other dust. DU on the other hand would keep emitting radiation internally.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

But which people? Government or the people who actually own the land?

And I guess, their favourite choice of "Don't use any weapons on my land and just clear off voluntairily" is not an option.

I don't get why people hate on the Ukraine for using weapons to defend themselves. Not like they chose to be attacked.

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