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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

The OHCHR report you linked doesn't state who bombed, from what I skimmed. But I'm sure you read it and can point me to such a finding?

Speaking of MH-15, who slaughtered people in Bucha? Which side is bombing shopping centres during the day and apartment buildings in the night? We all know that. And now you come with a source which does not establish that Ukraine bombed civilians and you want me to believe it wasn't the Russian side which has a well-established pattern of doing the exact thing? In Chechnya, in Syria, in Afghanistan?

I'm not saying that you can't -- if the evidence is there, go ahead, post it. But actually post evidence and not what you decided was evidence without even reading half-way through the thing.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think I can go any more official than the OHCHR, and I don't think I can convince you of your good vs evil narrative with any source. People got shelled, it's obviously implied they got shelled by the other side, and no theory to the contrary is put forward in the report.

I'll let you ponder this: This would be the first conflict in which one side commits all the war crimes. Even more curious, the side which commits no war crimes has a bunch of volunteer units literally using Nazi, SS and Bandera iconography. You know, the guys that marched hundreds of thousands of civilians into the woods and murdered them. Does that seem plausible to you?

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You're talking about the side that has the Wagner group, right?

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