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[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I'll never understand statements like these. Capitalism is the #1 reason there's a profit incentive for any given thing to be horrible.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know where you people get this concept. Humans are the issue, not capitalism. There's literally no functioning system of trade without capitalism. It's just human nature. We are greedy and we want more than others so that we feel secure in our own future. It's not fucking rocket scientist, and it's not fucking capitalism.

Do you really Envision a world where everyone works equally and gets paid equally and nobody makes extra profit but somehow people are happy? That doesn't sound like any of the humans I've ever known, even the nice ones. You need to be a little bit more realistic and get your childish ass out of the playground.

We couldn't even get people to wear masks to not kill each other and you're over here holding your breath for agapelandia lmao

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Did you read the article?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2996502

You can't make long ass statements like this witbout even reading the reasons cited in the article through government data.

The cost of living is a capitalist concept.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the cost of living is a capitalist concept

No, it isn't. Lol

There are fundamental costs to human survival and those costs must be borne out somewhere. Hunter/gatherers also had a cost of living.

[-] DaveFuckinMorgan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Animals foraging resources in nature is capitalism mannnnn

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The things people choose to believe never cease to amaze me.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

It’s just human nature. We are greedy and we want more than others so that we feel secure in our own future.

you're projecting your own terrible views here, not stating universal fact

and it’s not fucking capitalism.

fucking lol

https://theconversation.com/humans-arent-inherently-selfish-were-actually-hardwired-to-work-together-144145
https://socialistworker.co.uk/features/human-nature-and-social-change/

[-] kttnpunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are innumerable functioning systems of trade without capitalism. My point is capitalism is intrinsically violent and wasteful. War is profit. But there ARE mutualist, communalist, and voluntary approaches to labor as well just to name a few. I also have to point out that the gold standard in the case of USD is effectively maintained by a obscenely expansive worldwide military presence which can't be a good thing long term and how about that ongoing pandemic we don't talk about? How long can we as species get away with ignoring the real, big, systemic problems? Capitalism is NOT fixing them, and won't. Regardless you're real mistaken, I don't envision some perfect world, dont accuse me of naivety- I'm a tired, jaded anarchist, not a communist. Anyways I am truly sorry you've only ever known assholes.. I'm not holding my breath for anything just speaking my mind, and maybe I change someone's, at least I tried

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The gold standard lmao really?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Workers owning a company would also have a profit incentive because the workers would like to make more money.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Workers owning their own company would incentivize creating stable growth, since the workers aren't going to willfully destroy the company they all have a stake in.

Whereas now we have unstable growth because the C suites, executives and shareholders milk companies dry and then toss them. They have no concerns about whether the bottom rung guys are sustainable.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're going to need to define "stable" and "unstable" growth here.

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