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I am interested in learning of his policies, what he said and did, state of the left movement in Belarus as well as position of the country on the world stage and in the eyes of the non-western countries.

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[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Jews were able to make the world remember [the Holocaust], and the whole world bows to them, being afraid of saying one wrong word to them

~ Alexander Lukashenko

The history of Germany is a copy of the history of Belarus. Germany was raised from ruins thanks to firm authority and not everything connected with that well-known figure Hitler was bad. German order evolved over the centuries and attained its peak under Hitler. This corresponds with our understanding of a presidential republic and the role of a president in it

~ Also Alexander Lukashenko

Doesn't really have anything to do with his policies, just make sure you factor in that he's a raging antisemite if you're deciding whether he's "based" or not

[-] juchebot88@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I don't support the sentiments voiced in these quotes, for which I would like to see more context, but we should also remember that he's allied with the Russian government in fighting genuine swastika-waving genocidal fascists (and the NATO alliance which backs them). Material reality, not opinions alone, are what makes one a fascist.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

You can still be anti-semetic and fight Nazis. Hence the current Russian narrative of "judeo-globalism", "Soros", and extreme anti-LGBT sentiment.

Also I will say that you are not missing any context with those statements. Lukashenko is a known anti-semite in Belarus.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think this is more complicated than a "enemy of my enemy is my friend" deal, Russia is finding an ally in Belarus because of their proximity to NATO. They don't exactly hold all the same ideological lines. That, and Russia isn't exactly fighting Nazism first, they're just fighting NATO encroachment and justifying it with the convenient fact that there happen to be Nazis in Ukraine to make the war sound good domestically and to make NATO look bad. Russia is just playing the self-preservation game like any other Capitalist country does.

Besides if they were actually against Nazism in every instance, they wouldn't be buddy buddy with Belarus.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know anything about Lushashenko but calling him an anti-semite over those two quotes show how right he was in the first one.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

So just to be clear, in the first quote, Lukashenko states that the Jews "made" the world remember the Holocaust, as if it wasn't something to remember in its own right, only something to be remembered after some kind of big Jewish campaign. A conspiracy, one might call it.

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's one way to look at it.

Another way is: You can't say anything about Jews. If you say anything remotely negative about Jews you're immediately tagged as an anti-Semite.

I can hate Evangelicals, I can hate Christians, I can hate Muslims but if I hate Jews it's over for me.

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