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Hey could we defederate with exploding-heads.com/
(sh.itjust.works)
The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.
Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"
Nazi instances will proliferate and it benefits nobody else to stay in federation with them. It makes the whole fediverse less usable and more dangerous. And whether you like it or not it sends a message to people who are targeted by them that they are not truly welcome here, regardless of whatever moderation rules are espoused.
And in North America, as in many places, these people are acting as a propaganda arm for a literal violent terror movement. Sometimes under a fig leaf of ”irony” but it makes no material difference whether they’re chuckling when they spew shit to me
Thank you for the voice of reason. I have seen so many "but I don't want an echo chamber" and "just block them bro". Like thats not the point of this. It's to deplatform them.
How many Christian Soccer Moms do you think used reddit in the first place? How many do you think are on Lemmy?
That's impossible, because all Soccer Moms on reddit are vampires, and vampires can't be Christian by definition.
Prove my logic wrong.
I'm also shagging this guys mom
I'm new to the fediverse and im kinda happy that its so easy to defederate from the more over the top instances. I'm in favor of closing the door on those psychos too.
They are just saying whatever to get a rise out of people like 4chan. The goal is chaos they want everyone to react and ban instances.
They don't magically go away when they are defederated. They will sign up to other open instances and plan their raids from the defederated one which we will have no visibility of. Then they can go from instance to instance causing chaos and breaking up the network as each one defederates.
Then you are back at square one where it is a user problem.
I'm not supporting this particular instance but its a problem that needs to be considered and defederation is a short term fix but will result it bigger problems down the line.
The blueprint is there to kill the network. Make a load of accounts, spam dumb shit until you are defederated... Rinse and repeat.
I think the responsibility lies on the owners of each instance to manage trolls on their instance. If they moderate responsibly and shut down the Nazis and trolls, nobody will defederate them. If they don't moderate effectively and their instance turns into a cesspool, they'll get defederated by everybody except other trolls.
That's the whole point of the fediverse. You run your instance, and based on what users on your instance do, other instances decide whether or not to federate with it. And if that results in multiple federated networks that don't federate with one another, that's fine too. You can't keep fascists or tankies from downloading server software and setting up an online forum. But you can keep them out of yours.
I mean trolls in general, I'm not calling for defederation. I'm trying to point out it won't solve their problem. I'm playing devils advocate and saying they're will always be something someone finds offensive and to block problematic individuals not the whole instance.
I didn't visit the site, i said I'm speaking in a general sense about trolls.
Not a lot of folks are that vindictive and dedicated to the cause, to make that an issue, I don't think.