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Return-to-office orders look like a way for rich, work-obsessed CEOs to grab power back from employees::White-collar workers temporarily enjoyed unprecedented power during the pandemic to decide where and how they worked.

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[-] DreadPirateShawn 53 points 1 year ago

Talking about work during a business dinner does not equal hours. Thinking about work ideas after hours does not equal hours. Fostering a business connection does not equal work hours.

And if they do, then I get to count stressing in the shower, arguments in my head while I go for a walk, ranting to my partner about work problems, and keeping in touch with former coworkers.

[-] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A third of their job is "fostering business connections," with the other third being "understanding the company and workforce," followed by "actually making decisions."

I do 40 hour weeks. I certainly do less difficult work than a construction worker, but it's still considered work. Work is work, whether you're being paid to sit on your ass and draw stick figures or actually doing continuous manual labor.

All I'm saying is just because you don't consider it work doesn't mean it isn't being done entirely for business reasons, for the business, during work hours, which they are only doing because it's their job. It is therefore definitely work. Not "hard" work but still work

[-] DreadPirateShawn 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think you and I actually agree. My intended point isn't that I don't consider the CEO job to be work -- it's that the inflated hours are bullshit.

You even included "during work hours" -- CEO work during their "office hours" is absolutely valid. But some CEOs like to count off-hour activities VERY generously toward their "work", and my point is, then so is my off-hour mental activity that I only do because of my job. (Or, say, can a manual laborer bill for weekend exercise time, if it's to stay in shape for their job?)

(Now, there's definitely a reply option that says we SHOULD all count that time, and/or stop providing unpaid overtime. :-) I'm just saying CEOs aren't a different species of worker, no matter how "special little boy" they like to paint themselves.)

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