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"Me cago en tus muertos" - ill shit all over your dead relatives. Spanish.

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

In polish, calling people with the neutral gender. It's a grave insult which implies lack of agency and dehumanisation, and thank to some rightwinger assholes in parliament is also a specific transphobic insult now.

While in english it's completely normal thing to say if you're not sure of a person's gender.

So definitely not my "favourite", i would never said this to anyone in polish and i occasionally get a hiccup of misgendering someone in english because of that, but interesting from language point of view.

[-] zorbse 14 points 1 year ago

Is it kind of like calling someone "it" as an insult in English?

[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago

I'd say so, and I've seen it used in the same transphobic contexts.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty much yes, the closest thing that would be.

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

While in english it’s completely normal thing to say if you’re not sure of a person’s gender.

Well...

You can use "they" without being insulting, as it still presumes personhood, but if you call someone "it" you're dehumanizing them and stripping personhood from them, as "it" is used for objects and things, not people. It sounds like what you're translating would be closer to "it" in English than "them" or "they".

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Yes but "it" in polish is specifically belonging to the neutral gender. There's a bit more nuance there if you add context of sentence but it's pretty much build in. Polish equivalent of "they" or "them" is specifically 3rd person plural and cannot be used in singular and in 2nd person.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 1 year ago

AFAIK English's they or them is supposed to be plural only, but we butchered that a long time ago.

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