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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by chalkman@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[-] Otome-chan@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

NO therapist will EVER urge someone to transition for whom it is not the right option, and to say so is demonstrably incorrect.

This actually isn't the case. I've spoken with probably 6 therapists and psychiatrists at this point and not one actually bothered to be careful about diagnosis. In California it's literally illegal for a medical professional to suggest someone might not need to transition.

This is an outright fallacy created by the anti-trans movement.

And yet I experienced it? And not even just for trans stuff, but medical stuff as a whole. There's way too many doctors out there ready to push prescription medications when simply asked. The "transgender" and lgbtqia communities actively suggest lying to therapists as well to get on meds despite any warnings they might have. I was told this directly by lgbtqia communities. that I should lie to my therapist to get on hormones. That actually happened.

However, claiming that a gender therapist will likely urge them to transition IS HARMFUL because it it's untrue,

Except it's not untrue? I and others have experienced just that.

but that is simply not what happens in gender therapy.

And yet it is? I can't say I've ever experienced any pushback from doctors in the 7 years I've been seeing them. not a single "hold on lets slow down and do things right" just all "full speed ahead". It's shocking and appalling.

You don't simply "have information to share that goes against their beliefs", you want to spread misinformation under the guise of it being "medical/scientific" and "sharing all sides".

And here again you prove my point. what someone thinks is "misinformation" will differ from person to person.

I truly feel for you that you feel you were misled or urged, but please focus on finding happiness instead of continuing this dangerous rhetoric.

I think your rhetoric is dangerous and you think mine is dangerous. Which is literally my point.

[-] Alue42@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Literally everything in this comment is YOUR EXPERIENCE, at least your perception of it. If you were to go around saying "here is what I experienced" that would be absolutely FINE! But that's not what you are doing, you are saying "speak with a gender therapist who will likely urge you to transition" is objective fact. Don't even share the stories of those you've spoken with as lived experience because those are second hand stories and therefore unreliable. I'm not saying that the people you've spoken with can't be trusted, but the mere nature of the fact that the are secondhand means they are coming from an unreliable narrator.

You are literally incorrect about that law in California - I live in California, and that is one thousand percent not a law, and I know the law to which you are referring that got distorted over social media and you didn't even get that correct and twisted even further to fit your narrative.

No one in those comments said anything about lying to therapist's to get on hormones. Meds were never mentioned except in people's anecdotes. The only things commenters were encouraging OP to do were to think things through. And no, misinformation does not change from person to person. There are things that are factual and things that are not. You went from stating items as facts in the being to later revealing them as your anecdotal experience, which may simply be your perceived experience.

What exactly about my comments do you find harmful? I explained, multiple times, that your anecdotal experience does not equate to the entirety of the profession or the community.

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