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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 6 days ago

It's absolutely awesome, I do wonder how we eventually deal with the flood of very sensible vaccines though. Like, of course we can poke children a lot in the first 12 years of their life and probably also combine a few of them like we did before, though there also are a metric fuckton of things mRNA vaccines are possible against. Poking children once every week sounds, uh… complicated.

(Don't get me wrong, I want a world where THAT is our problem)

[-] crater2150@feddit.org 16 points 6 days ago

Many of the new mRNA vaccines, especially those against cancer, aren't usable that way anyways, e.g. from the article:

individually tailored to target a patient’s unique cancer mutations

So you get those, when you already have the disease, the reason it's called a vaccine is because it's making your immune system fight it instead of directly acting on the cause

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

Oh, weird. I thought those ran under the name immunotherapy.

[-] crater2150@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That may well be the more correct term, I'm not in a medical profession, just read some articles about it (and news are usually not great about terminology). But as someone in another thread wrote, they're calling this one a "neoantigen therapy" to avoid triggering RFK 🙄

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 days ago

A lot of vaccines are combined. MMR and DTaP, for example, were probably two you got as a child.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

At least for respiratory vaccines, nasal inhalation might be a future way of reducing pokes. I think I saw early research saying its more effective as its where the problem is, but that getting both might be better than one or the other still.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

HPV vaccines (stops cervical cancer) are a thing here for girls and they don't get them until they're 12. They just go around the schools. This seems like it could be done later too, maybe at the same time.

The vaccine schedule for kids is already pretty hefty. I can't remember how many times we had to get them to the doctor but it felt like a lot when you're already frazzled.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 days ago

Boys should really get it too, they can transmit the virus causing the cancer… I think in Germany they just did a marketing campaign about this recently to push vaccination rates among men.

True the schedule was already quite a thing, though it probably felt like more than it was. Perhaps they find a way to administer the mRNA vaccines orally like with the old polio one (but this time safely!), that way you could perhaps "sneak" it into a piece of candy or sth.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind not giving it to boys but it's not part of the national vaccine schedule.

[-] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 5 points 6 days ago

Cost-benefit is the likely reason.

For comparison: the UK initially concluded the cost-benefit ratio was in favour of girls-only HPV vaccination, but IIUC updated this assessment and offered it to boys too after a public campaign by Jaime Winstone.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

Every time such a calculation is made they should be forced by law to publicize the calculated worth of a humans life and/or health.

[-] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 3 points 5 days ago

In the UK at least, decisions and rationale about which vaccinations and treatments should be publicly-funded via the NHS are published quite transparently. For example: https://www.nihr.ac.uk/story/preventing-cancer-extending-vaccination-boys

Vaccinating everyone in the UK against everything for which vaccines are available (even against diseases with very low risk in the UK) would cost so much that the NHS would have to cut treatments with very high benefit-to-cost ratio.

Therefore, below a certain benefit-to-cost threshold, the UK has no reasonable choice except to withhold public funding. The HPV vaccine for boys was right on that threshold. IMO, the UK did the right thing by funding the clear benefit (HPV vaccine for girls, whose risk was significantly higher per existing evidence) and extending it to boys when additional evidence showed it was worth doing so.

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I have to wonder if vaccinating just some part of the boys' population would have a higher benefit/cost ratio. Or vaccinating only in bigger cities.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Many of the cancers it prevents can be gotten regardless of sex. Among the cancers are throat and colorectal.

Also prevents genital warts, which aren't dangerous (HPV either will cause warts or cancer depending on the strain), but like, you can ensure you don't get genital warts

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