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The new lemming experience (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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Maybe if people with your ideology only make things that harm you it's an opportunity to reflect.

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[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Then you seem to be arguing that the regime change in Ukraine was a justified preemptive strike because Russia evil.

I actually half agree with this because Russia has been doing interference and disinformation and various denialist campaigns that significantly damaged the western democracy. But the rational arguments against this are:

  1. Russia is not a significant threat to Nato, and has no engaged in unprovoked wars outside it's borderlands when those were interfered with
  2. Russia's interference can be countered by mandating social media properly moderate bot networks and hate speech, or banning social media which doesn't.
  3. The mentality that "the enemy is too strong and only understands violence" is delusional. There had been many trade agreements that ensured Russia would not suddenly go on a killing spree.
  4. Provoking a proxy war to stop a war makes no sense. Or at least us supporting this madness makes no sense, compared to supporting sanctions against e.g. US and Israel, who have a far higher bodycount than Russia.

But again, my main problem here is what is "allowed to be said". There is a literal psychosis going on where even just understanding the enemy is treason. It's a complete and utter propaganda victory for the US imperialist forces.

And this is an issue because we are responsible for the influence we can bring to bear on our governments to seek diplomatic solutions and stop supporting an endless war.

Do you not see how the EU/NATO, could have legitimate security issues with Russia, keeping this in mind? Do you just paint the western hegemony the way many in the US just go around saying “dur hur Russia evil”?

No I don't see that. And I judge people based on what they do, not what they say. (or say they are going to do and then do it)

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