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The attacks began on a July weekend and have continued for a month, stretching from Moscow and St. Petersburg, to cities in the south, and eastward to the Ural Mountains. The targets weren’t oil refineries, maritime hubs or arms plants hit by other Ukrainian strikes, but warehouses that bring the convenience of online shopping across the breadth of Russia.

Ukraine’s drones have pummeled the giant depots belonging to Wildberries, Russia’s biggest online retailer, burning billions of dollars’ worth of merchandise and bringing the war home to the broad public.

The attacks on about 20 Wildberries facilities have underlined Kyiv’s ability to strike far and wide inside Russia and posed a new challenge to President Vladimir Putin nearly 4½ years into his full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

They have badly shaken the empire built by Tatyana Kim, the country’s richest female entrepreneur, whose fortune has been estimated at $8.1 billion.

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[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 55 points 18 hours ago

Not mentioning that wildberries sold military equipment to soldiers. It's a valid military targets.

[-] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Ok my company has an Amazon wish list for Ukrainian soldiers does that mean its cool if Russia missiles Amazon warehouses and trucks

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

I think the grand majority of us are okay with Russia targeting Amazon.

Amazon is such a shit company.

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yes. Military logisitics hubs are valid targets in war. The same way Iran targeting Amazon's datacenters in UAE/Bahrain were valid targets, as Israel/US use AWS for targeting Iran.

Ecommerce sites that do not want to be targeted should not sell or ship wartime goods. Wildberries was specially egregious, as it had a dedicated tag called "Everything for the SVO" that was just for supplying soldiers in the Ukraine war, but all companies who do are valid targets.

[-] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

I think if we are to be honest about this, targeting Amazon warehouses would be met with outrage in the west. Even though my company's wish list for Ukrainian soldiers definitely includes equipment meant for the front lines such as ifaks

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You seen to have glossed over the fact that Wildberries had a specific "things to kill Ukrainian" tag in their store, so its not a 1:1 comparison.

But yes, the US probally shouldn't get into a war of choice with a foreign power within range of any Amazon warehouses. They would indeed be a valid target, albeit one more nebulous than the "buy these things to kill those specific people" storefront that is Wildberries.

Russians should be outraged that the war continues, but Ukraine is entirely within its right to target wartime logistics hubs that are directly equipping enemy soldiers, no matter the coat of paint on it, or whether that logistic hub also sells candy bars and t-shirts.

[-] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah they should shot Amazon warehouse and data center.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

I keep reading this claim, but rarely see specifics discussed. As far as i can tell, it’s electronic equipment that could be used for things like drones, and some light arms related equipment that could, of course, be used in combat, but is probably not designed specifically for that. If theres other stuff, please let us know.

That being said, can we please just be honest? Even if wildberries is a military supplier, if intention of the attacks is to sow civilian fear and unrest, then this is terrorism. I’m so tired of the US (and more generally the “west”) pretending that we don’t engage in terrorism, or endorse and facilitate terrorism. We do, a lot.

[-] SpaceTimeInterval@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 hours ago

Lol. Russia will fall. Slava Ukraini.

[-] RusAD 16 points 14 hours ago

Camouflage nets, rifle scopes, body armor, trench candles... Just to name a few.

[-] gergolippai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

that's just camping equipment!!11 /s

(but on a serious note, I'm baffled at the audacity of claiming that targeting wildberries by ukraine is the same level of "terrorism" as targeting actual civilians by russia.)

[-] RusAD 1 points 17 minutes ago

Well, legally it's (AFAIK) really a grey area. But morally... Especially considering that Russia was targeting Nova Poshta with the same justification for quite some time before the attacks on Wildberries started.

[-] gergolippai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

i mean forget the poshta, they are bombing civilians and civil infra (remember last winter)?

but i mean forget them bombing civilians, they massacred civilians in Bucha.

but forget bucha, they invaded a sovereign country.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Are the people downvoting this claiming that the US/the west don’t engage in terrorism? If so, I would love to hear the argument for that claim. Otherwise, I’m going to just assume that y’all are just engaging in the team sport moralism that is so common here in the US whereby things are bad when the “bad guys” do it, but good and righteous when us “good guys” do the same thing.

[-] Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

No, you are being down voted for being a whiney turd trying to both sides this conflict in the mistaken belief that two wrongs somehow make a right.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Here’s a thought exercise for us US folks:

If Iran blew up the Walmart in Bloomington Indiana, would you consider that terrorism? Walmart supplies* tons of stuff that can be used for military action including firearms directly.

I strongly suspect that Americans would be outraged at the inhuman, terroristic barbarism of such an act and use it to argue moral high ground and justify the violence their own nation initiated.

  • Notice how I said “supplies” instead of “sells” because that sounds much more scary.
[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

I upvoted you becasue I think it's respectfully written and a valid thought experiment.

I think the experiment fails, or has a negative result:

  1. Wildberries specifically had a category for essentially "Buy this and have it sent to the front for our soldiers to use"
  2. They were sending so much stuff that they set up dedicated infrastructure for that purpose
  3. Arguably, this had become a significant segment of their business

So it's a matter of degree. This isn't like an American buying boots and sending them to their soldier somewhere. The scale of operations is wildly different.

I do think there would also be a contributory factor of "But... but this is us, not them!", but I think the difference is very clear, and Wilberries is a valid target, whereas Walmart would not be.

[-] encelado748@feddit.org 21 points 16 hours ago

If Walmart was displaying a special category “for use in the war with Iran” with tactical clothing and gear, then I would have been less sympathetic to be honest. In this scenario Walmart promote items to send to the soldiers that kill the victims of a military invasion.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Nope, doing a community service. Walmart is a parasite.

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