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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I don't trust anyone who isn't vegan since they clearly believe that harming others is fine if they're sufficiently vulnerable.

There is no clear line between humans and non humans. What particular gene? what behaviour? what unique feeling gives our cries moral weight but strips it from a cow? What does a pig do that condemns them but spares a dog?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

this is a fallacious line of reasoning. you're falling for the spectrum fallacy.

[-] Pennywise@quokk.au 5 points 11 hours ago

That's not really an argument for veganism. It's a moral accusation masquerading as a premise. It assumes that eating animals necessitates “harming others” in a morally relevant sense, then uses that assumption to characterize everyone who disagrees as someone who approves of exploiting vulnerable beings. That's basically begging the question with a side order of moral condemnation.

I knew this woman that claimed she was vegan. She was interested in aquaponics. Raising fish for food and using the effluent as fertilizer. Not that she would eat the fish. No, because she's vegan! She was happy to sell the fish to somebody who would, though. She was also interested in raising chickens for their eggs as well as meat chickens for slaughter. Not that she eats eggs or chicken, but she has no problem exploiting chickens and selling their eggs and corpses.

Your purity test is wanting, IMO. As you phrased it it seems pulling weeds could become an ethical crisis.

[-] Sas@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago

So you pull a woman claiming to be vegan but very clearly not being vegan as an example to say what? Harming animals is harming others and shouldn't be a very controversial statement. Most people are socialised to not think about it or accept it as normal because we've done it for thousands of years and we don't even have to watch the animals get murdered so there's a mental disconnect that, when pushed, causes distress and defensive behaviour while turning off critical thinking

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

most people don't engage deeply with critical thinking, vegan or no.

[-] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Not every non-vegan is a bad person, sometimes your social and economical context fights against your ethic; in many countries low-quality meat is cheaper than fresh fruit and vegetables; I'm not saying nothing can be done to improve these paradigms, political measures need to be achieved to reduce animal consumption, a single person has limited power.

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