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[-] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Let's say that ball is a hand grenade. Who gave it to you? It can't be JUST the user if it's that dangerous. Finally parents are being held to account if a kid uses a firearm inappropriately. The same should apply to companies who build AI, if it's used to hack someone or make CSAM.

[-] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The difference is that a hand grenade is illegal to own. A series of matrix multiplications is not.

A better comparison is a knife. If you throw that in the air and it lands on someone you are responsible, the person who sold you a potentially dangerous but legal tool is not.

Edit illegal, not legal. silly mistake

[-] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Where do you live that hand grenades are legal to own?

[-] Womble@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago

Was supposed to say illegal, the argument didnt work with saying legal.

[-] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

Ok, but if time and time again, it proves that this does more harm than good, much like firearms, shouldn't the person/company that made it be held to account as well as the operator? I'm not saying that it IS the case, but it should be.

[-] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The same should apply to companies who build AI, if it's used to hack someone or make CSAM.

Only if they host the model, if it's a self hosted open source model, the entity hosting the model should be held accountable

Also to keep your analogy going, if I tell you how to make a grenade. You then go out to buy supplies, make the grenade and blow up your neighbour, should I be held accountable for sharing knowledgea? Because I'm yet to hear about anyone getting into trouble for distributing the anarchist's cookbook

[-] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago

First paragraph: agreed.

Second paragraph: that's a good question and I really don't know how to answer that. I guess it would depend on whether or not you knew what I planned to do with it. Because there are laws about that. Do I plan to set it off in my empty field? Or do you know for sure it's going through a neighbors window? Because if you knew, then told me then you would be in trouble, for accessory at least.

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