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Something the US has in common with China, they intercepted network gear and installed backdoors too while also demanding backdoors be installed in regular consumer devices. Plus the telecom/ISP secret surveillance rooms... Both countries governments are evil.
I guess the hack is to get one from the other country, because they can theoretically do less with the data.
Every time I mention this being a risk with Chinese tech I get flamed.
The CCP effectively controls every chinese company. If they want backdoors, they get backdoors.
I say that as a centre-left European who has just as much criticism for American tech.
Not sure why you're telling me that like especially as I'm essentially saying they are the opposite sides of the same fucked up coin. I'd say the fundamental difference is on the western side it's the child raping Epstein class is who is behind it all and who are actively working to make our lives more miserable driven by immense obsession of power and wealth. The Chinese side is more if defacto state operation which isn't benefiting a few greedy sickos but rather maintaining the whole status quo for the state. Neither should exists, both countries are a threat to the rest of the world, though the Americans have tilted the evil scale more towards themselves at this point in time. And in Europe we're now worried the US will flip a switch to cut us off from all cloud services too, besides spying on us, sabotage us and threatening invasion. China is somewhat less extreme now, but still undermining us and spying on is nonetheless. A swinging pendulum of who is more evil that I wish would turn into a wrecking ball and free us of this insanity.
At least in the west the companies can fight back, like Apple has done a few times. In China the government can force companies to do their bidding.
Which router companies fight back? Or computer hardware in general? Anybody with a warrant canary?
Apple makes computers? You can turn an Apple computer into a router in 10 minutes using docker
Cisco has been willingly doing this for eons, there's a reason my routers an WAPs run pfsense/openwrt with switches from mikrotik.
Cisco has been willingly doing this for eons, there's a reason my routers an WAPs run pfsense/openwrt with switches from mikrotik.