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I wonder how many blacks were in Soviet Armenia at that time? Same percentage as in America? Somehow, I doubt it. I have always gotten a chuckle out of countries with relatively homogenous populations raising a hue and cry over America's racial issues.
... Racial issues that are the direct result of American civilization being built on genocide and slavery. So chuckle away I guess
We had no part in shaping the past, we can only reflect on it.
It happened and all the hand-wringing in the world won't change it.
Hell, my Puritan ancestors probably took up arms to wipe out Northeast tribes that were on land they wanted. Civilizations spread, cultures clash, there are winners and losers in the flow and that tide never stops moving back and forth.
Nothing we can do about it - and I'm certainly not going to cry and act as if it was the Most Evil Thing Humanity Ever Did..
Most evil? No. Top 5? Yeah, probably. There aren't many historical events more evil than chattel slavery, and its effects are still being felt today, 161 years later.
Here you go.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
There were plenty of non-black ethnic groups that the Soviets treated poorly. (Though it was mainly Stalin and he treated everyone poorly.)
Indeed. However, the issue that was painted - and is still painted to a degree - is that somehow, American racism was/is a symbol of western failure.. And they always seemed to ignore the oppression in their own societies.
I've always maintained that shitting on the US is an easy thing to do since most of our history is a fairly open book. Go look into other countries and even into non-western nations and their own inter-racial, inter-tribal, inter-religious strife and what you see with a bit of digging, isn't any different.
It's human nature writ large across time and place.
America didn't have a racism problem because it was uniquely heterogenous, the legacy of slavery meant it was particularly racist and segregated. Racism is a problem everywhere, but we need to stop grabbing on to the comforting lie that what we had was just the natural consequence of demographics.
And the Soviet Union had a whole ton of ethnicities. I don't know about Armenia specifically, but that is right down at the confluence of multiple cultures, so we're not looking at somewhere like Sweden.
When you're dealing with the Soviet Union (which I remember as an actual nation, not just a line item in a history book) you were dealing with a nation that hid a phenomenal amount of abuse to any and every ethnicity that wasn't actual Rus. To this day, my father's family can not get information on our ancestry from Russia because of my ancestors ethnicity.
Read up on the Holodomor.
This is just a second whatabout and doesn't address my post at all.
I guess the questio then is, what should be done to change history? Vote Democratic? Admit it happened?Yeah, I'm down with it.. but what do you want from making this post? What have you discovered that others in the past have not? It's like there's all this finger pointing, but WHAT is the thing that the finger pointers want from this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union