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Just so it's clear: I don't support IDF. I'm saying that a country has the same right to apply their rules as an airline. I'm still perfectly aware that this will get downvoted to hell because lemmings don't like it when leftist speech is suppressed but love when right-wing speech is and will not admit it.
This has nothimg to do with left or right. Bringing Jesus' actual teaching is if anything leftist itself What this is about is that one passengers violated the terms of service of the airline, was obnoxious towards others caused a delay in flight operations and made the work for the flight crew just that much harder for egoistic self centred reasons. If someone had done the same while preaching the socialist revolution my ooinion on it would be very much the same.
Have you clicked the link? We both agree that anyone preaching anything in a plane should be removed. What about the other story? Is stopping pro-Palenstinian artists who was chanting "Death to IDF" from entering Germany a violation of his free speech rights or not?
Calling for death is not a right in Germany, is it?
Yes, so we agree both decisions are legal and valid. Yet lemmings are mad about one decision and not the other. Hence my meme.
I dont get it, did he delay a plane?
Did he start preaching to a captive audience who werent able to leave?
So you think delaying a plane is the only rule around speech that exists in the world? No other laws exist?
Or are you only able to compare exactly identical situations?
Doesn't really matter. I know everyone will now be playing "find 100 differences" with those two situations bringing up one irrelevant thing after another while completely missing the only thing that matters: in both cases it was legal to suppress speech, lemmy reacted differently because in one case they agree with the speaker and in the other case they don't.
No, I think bob vylen or whatever his name is keeps his speech to his shows and the media and doesn't subject unwilling people to his opinions when they have no escape.
You don't get to stand on your soapbox on other peoples dime, if you're holding up a plane taking off it doesn't matter if you're doing it by speaking your mind or taking a shit in the isle. The airline has the right to kick you the fuck off
Yep, another irrelevant difference. Exactly as predicted. Thanks.
What an asinine response. Of course the other commenter does not think this. Nobody does.
Hmm. You should probably go back to lisp. Don't take this personally but you're objectively, measurably wretched at the hot takes gig.
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Matthew 6:5 New International Version
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others."
I'm perfectly fine with you citing bible here.
Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions. So you revisited the indecency of your youth, when the Egyptians caressed your bosom and pressed your young breasts.…
calling this a free speech issue is disgusting and you know it.
Which one of those?
OK I'LL SPELL IT OUT IN SMALL WORDS SO MAYBE YOU CAN COMPREHEND:
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BOTHER PEOPLE ON THE PLANE.
simple enough? fucks sake. how would you feel if someone started a call to pray for Mohammed? would you sit there quietly while they did their thing?
no you fucking wouldn't
Dude, chilax. I'm not saying this lady should be allowed to preach on a plane. I'm saying the airline has the right to remove her and Germany has the right not to let in people that chant “Death, death to the IDF,” Lemmy reacted differently to both post.
Now you will start looking for differences between those situations but you will fail to prove that one was legal and the other wasn't. The only difference will be that you like one speaker but not the other.
Dude, get fucked.
you're confusing unrelated things in order to make a futile point because
these aren't related in any way shape or form. it's completely 'legal' and logical to shut this shrieking hag down on the air plane, and it's still hypocritical of germany to censor speech critical of israel. these things aren't connected in any way.
you're just full of garbage
You see? You can't write a single sentence without confusing 'legal' with 'hypocritical'. I said pretty much just that in the other thread and got downvoted because a lot of people get very emotional about this for some reason. Just like you. Why is that?