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[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

feed the people crushing machine that eats people and creates more money for billionaires.

This is a rather negative view on having children and I see it often in toxic childfree communities. That's what made me say something.

Just a polite request to be aware of and respect other people's choices.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago

No, that is a negative view of capitalism.

I did not disrespect anyone's choices anywhere in this post. Polite request not to project your own insecurities onto me.

If you are confident in your choice you have children then you should be able to acknowledge reality. Having children does not change the actual state of society. I believe it's very important to me honest with my family.

Why have children if you don't want to make the world better for them? How can the world get better if you ignore reality because it's emotionally inconvenient? Children deserve to be trusted. If they're not treated like they're capable humans they won't ever mature. I try to focus on the positive with my kids but I'll be damned if I'm going to lie to them just because the truth is unpleasant. They will be prepared to live in the world and change it for the better.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Look, I’m not attacking you or saying that we shouldn’t make a better world for our kids.

That phrase that children are made to be consumed by the people crushing machine and billionaires is often used to criticize people who have chosen to have children in this modern world we are living in. It’s shame based language.

That’s the only thing I was pointing out.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

I think you are misunderstanding when people use phrasing like that. It's not an attack on having children. It's an attack on the system and how it treats people.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Respectfully, I know what I’ve seen and this phrase has absolutely been used to criticize parents for deciding to have children now, particularly in the US. And especially in toxic childfree groups.

It is used in other ways, such as criticizing capitalism, as well.

Ok I agree that that's sometimes used to criticize parents but I did not do that. It comes across like you're intolerant of people talking about the issues with capitalism or you're overly sensitive and protecting intent where it doesn't exist. It's a bit unfair

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

You’re welcome to ignore my suggestion if you’d like and I promise I won’t be fussed. It was a suggestion and that’s it. I feel like I’ve been pretty polite on top of that. Let’s leave it, yeah?

this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2026
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