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[-] Eximius@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago

A genz hacker. In a world where "hacking" is writing prompts and calling IT help desks.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

and calling IT help desks.

It always amazes me how much people shit talk social engineering, when it's been a power house for hackers since the beginning.

The human (or I guess AI now) element is always the weakest link

[-] lordziv@lemmy.nz 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tbf, some of the best hackers were social engineering their way into the backend just by calling up certain support numbers in the 80s

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I refuse to call social engineers hackers, conmen is more fitting.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

You can refuse to call them hackers, everyone is entitled to be wrong about something.

Kevin Mitnick was a prolific hacker who used social engineering regularly to infiltrate, and hackers still do today. Humans are a massive weak point in any org, that's why we have to take quarterly training not to be a moron and let someone into our network through doing something stupid.

[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Mitnick was also a hacker, but I never considered his social engineering feats as hacking themselves. They were definitely what let him accomplish his goals though and I consider those skills adjacent, just like lock picking. If you see someone picking a lock, I doubt your brain says "OMG a hacker!".

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Hacking is making something work in an unconventional or unexpected way. Social engineers hack people in that way.

[-] Squirrelanna 10 points 1 week ago

Defcon would disagree. I've watched so many presenters talk about all forms of penetration testing, many of which used social engineering and lockpicking as a way to create exploitable vulnerabilities in networks. Whether or not you care to call them hackers... It doesn't really matter, won't stop them from hacking.

[-] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The weakest link in cybersecurity are usually the users after all.

[-] HieroProtagonist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Real hackers social-engineered their way into high security systems decades before the first blue haired femboy nerd proudly announced "Btw i am usin Arch!"

[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Wait, calling IT Help Desks isn’t social engineering now?

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

It always is. Even if you're actually calling for help, you need to basically trick them into helping you these days.

[-] daggermoon@piefed.world 13 points 1 week ago

Gen Z knows how to use Windows?

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Sounds like the tagline for a really crap movie. How far we've fallen from two people on one keyboard.

[-] Fetus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Don't forget breaking out a second keyboard, but both people use one hand on each keyboard instead of one keyboard each!

I know, right. . . Now that's real hacking!

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